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    #651
    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post
    India just reported their first case as well, within a half hour of Sec. Duque's presscon.
    yeigh!
    we have arrived!

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    #652
    Now that we have our first case of infection here, I wonder how prepared the government is to tackle the bull by the horns when it explodes dramatically. How prepared are the hospitals, especially the public hospitals? How prepared are the medical frontliners? I see pictures of those doctors and nurses(?) in Wuhan in biohazard suits. Do we have those here too? Do we need those biohazard suits to make sure they don't get infected as well? Remember when Dengue was at its peak it's hard to get a hospital room? Questions, questions.

    Right now, it's best not to get infected. Good luck to all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuhan View Post
    So to answer my question of why Hubei province is the designated biological facility
    Of the Chinese government.

    I did some digging.

    In the 1918 Spanish Flu, the virus was suspected as H1NI, the same as bird flu.
    But there are no proof of this, because the world that time had so much in
    Their hands, post world war 1, people returning from home or respective
    Countries. They brought with them a new strain, totally unknown. They didnÂ’t
    Know what hit them. And they did not even have the medical facilities to even
    Catalogue or save a specimen of the 1918 Spanish flu Virus.

    History only tells us that the virus sarted in 1918 and weakened in 1920, faded
    Without cure, and close to 100M dead .

    And then I came up to this article in National Geographic

    1918 Flu Pandemic That Killed 5 Million Originated in China, Historians Say

    In this article, historians traced the Spanish flu from Hebei Province China. In
    1917, China was ravaged by an epidemic but tried to hide it to the world.
    In 1918, a lot of Chinese were shipped to Europe to build iinfrastructures
    As was the case in America in late 1800s, when the Chinese were commissioned
    To build railroads and dams.

    So the Spanish flu is not from Spain, or from a spanish citizen, as we
    Would conclude it to be.

    So 1917, a unknown virus strain from China
    Year 2019, another unknown virus strain from China

    100 years. Is this cyclical?

    So I dug further.

    During the Spanish flu, a concurrent virus was also present: The Swine flu.

    1918 Flu Resulted In Current Lineage Of H1N1 Swine Influenza Viruses -- ScienceDaily

    So look at in your other news section, We are also experiencing the ASF. Right?

    So in 1918, the Spanish Flu ravaged humans, the Swine Flu ravaged hogs and livestocks.

    Now, in 2019-2020, the same scenario is happening.
    so ano point mo?

    bago ka na-ban you were saying di magkakaroon ng n-CoV dito kasi di tayo nagka-SARS dahil humid ang Pinas

    ngayon you're saying repeat ito ng Spanish flu which is a global pandemic

    nagbago isip mo ngayon meron na n-CoV sa pinas

    from one extreme (dismissing it like it was nothing) you're now going to the other extreme saying this virus will kill millions like the pandemic 100 years ago

    wala ka ba mas consistent na view kung ano talaga ito?

    kaya hirap mo paniwalaan eh
    Last edited by uls; January 31st, 2020 at 12:07 AM.

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    #654
    I dont know if he really said this pero based on their logic and reasoning, it is very plausible that he did.

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

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    #655
    style kags.
    saying many things, sometimes contrary.
    then claiming credit when something "predicted" happens.

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    #656
    Quote Originally Posted by BlancNoir View Post
    I dont know if he really said this pero based on their logic and reasoning, it is very plausible that he did.

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
    "good gosh!"

    i am confident, an explanation explaining it, will come out soon.

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    #657
    We are now in unknown territory.

    The first mutation in Wuhan was beaten From Dec 31 to January 18 that’s why there was
    No need to lockdown or even to blow the news wide open.

    Then came Jan 18, a second mutation happened, and hospitals are flocking with sick people.
    China decided to lock down Wuhan.

    Now, in Japan, doctors are telling US that the 3 infected Japanese who came back from Wuhan
    ASYMPTOMATIC , are exhibiting another mutated form of the virus.

    IF this is mutating or adapting to its environment and able to slip detection, then we are
    IN for very challenging weeks ahead.

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    #658
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    many viral infections are relatively asymptomatic or only subclinically symptomatic. many of them can pass for "i got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning" syndrome.
    the virus did not read the textbook. it does not always behave according to man's word.
    blood testing is more reliable.

    Yes, but is this a flu virus as they claim to be?

    The other Chinese who died in Lazaro Hospital, died of Pneumonia.

    The virus is HIV.

    Pneumonia is the outcome of the HIV infection.

    San Lazaro Hospital patient dies of pneumonia, was under observation for coronavirus

    So what is this virus? Are we looking in the right direction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuhan View Post
    We are now in unknown territory.

    The first mutation in Wuhan was beaten From Dec 31 to January 18 that’s why there was
    No need to lockdown or even to blow the news wide open.

    Then came Jan 18, a second mutation happened, and hospitals are flocking with sick people.
    China decided to lock down Wuhan.

    Now, in Japan, doctors are telling US that the 3 infected Japanese who came back from Wuhan
    ASYMPTOMATIC , are exhibiting another mutated form of the virus.

    IF this is mutating or adapting to its environment and able to slip detection, then we are
    IN for very challenging weeks ahead.
    sinabi nga pag bagong infected ka lang wala ka pa symptoms

    2 weeks kasi incubation

    Ung mga japanese bagong infected lang tapos nilabas ng China

    Nag blood test positive sa Japan

    Kahit wala pa symptoms nasa loob na ng katawan ung virus kaya nadetect ng blood test

    Later on magkaka symptons yan

    No need for your conspiracy theory explanation

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    #660
    Wala naman duda kakalat pa yan

    Madali lang kasi kumalat parang sipon / trangkaso

    Sa sobra interconnected ng mundo via air travel

    Yun nga 1918 virus kumalat sa buong mundo ito pang 2019 cov mas mabilis pa dahil mas common ang air travel ngayon compared to 1918

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