Chery Cars Philippines (Iseway Motors)

[proxies]

I also agree with smooth.. BTW any updates regarding test drive? open na po ba cla for test drive?

[Reypal]

malalaman natin yan pag wala tayong nabalitaan na nasusunog na chery

[niky]

We're not thrashing it just because it's a "chinese copycat". We're skeptical because it's a chinese copy of a korean car... one made by one of the worst of the Korean automakers (so bad that it went belly-up years ago while the others thrived and grew)... it was a cute car back then, but it was never a class leader at anything.

We're harsh on it simply because, from appearances and feedback on build quality from here and from China... it doesn't really offer much at the price it's being sold at here that seems worth that price.

I know crash safety isn't of paramount importance to cheap car buyers, but, seriously... this is 335-400k pesos we're talking about. An amount that'll get you a secondhand five-star car or brand-new three-star car from another manufacturer.

Now, if it were about 250-295k, it would possibly be worth it. But when you ask at a certain price... that price brings certain expectations. That's all.

That's why I think it's utterly ridiculous for Toyota or Nissan to charge a whole lot of enchiladas for the Patrol and Prado (And lord, almighty... the old Ford Explorer? that much money for leaf-springs?!?). Why an 800k Vios is a stretch of the imagination... or 2.6 million for the Honda Pilot laughable... At its original asking price, the Kia Rio was something good... but with the Vios now cutting into that price, it begins to seem a bit expensive... and the Chevy Spark? I'm still flabbergasted that GM has the gall to price it at 500k pesos... an obscene amount of money for a slightly better Chery QQ.

Taken in isolation... any vehicle can be seen as having merit. Heck, I'm eyeing a micro-owner-type myself. That thing has no power, no suspension sophistication, and is about as safe as a stainless steel bath-tub on casters... but it costs under 100k brand-new (so to speak, being based on a secondhand Suzuki SuperCarry), so my expectations aren't that high.

But if you're asking for a big sum of money for said vehicle, you'd better have a lot of things to show the buyer to convince him to part with said cash. Especially considering the fact that some of those buyers are buying this as a first car, and this will be the biggest financial transaction of their lives (sans house and lot purchasing...).

[orly_andico]

smooth is right... but niky is absolutely right as well.

like i keep on saying like a broken record, at 350k the QQ is a pretty brain-damaged deal, ABS and airbags notwithstanding.

if it were 200k i would say it was a fantastic deal. since it's less than that in China, i would think 200k for it here would not be impossible, but apparently Iseway thinks otherwise. perhaps sometime they'll see things "our" way...

[oldblue]

yup I agree. this thread is sounding like a broken record

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pa-review na lang kung sino bumili na. yung may plano bumili, bili na kayo

i'm excited, we're excited ...

[OTEP]

It's different strokes for different folks. Right now, I'd still rather putter around in my 30 year old beater (street value Php100k) than cruise around in a 'brand new Chery'.

I've already pointed out in a previous post that a test drive is in order. But as it is, Chery's shoddy workmanship is all over the vehicle and is enough to deter me from getting one. And hey, at least there are some skeptics here unlike those broadsheet automotive journalists that seem to hail Chery as a car sent from heaven and the fullfilment of our driving dreams. :lol:

I don't mind it's tin can crash test results (my former Pajero's ratings weren't 5-star material, too). But for that hefty (hey, I'm no black rap superstar) sum of cash, I'd rather bank on something else. But that's just me.

And if we here at the forums point out not-so-good points regardinga vehicle, it doesn't mean we are bashing it, we're just telling it how it is. Try and look for a local broadsheet article or local car magazine that actually tells it as it is . The problem with local readers is most of them have grown accustomed to the local 'articles' (which are more often just paraphrased ang candy-colored press releases) that the moment we point out negative points on a vehicle, people think we're bashing already.

[tagarito]

Really, I was just too curious about this whole Chery thing, and that they set up shop right beside the IPO and under the DTI office (!)
I went there myself to believe it.

And if we here at the forums point out not-so-good points regardinga vehicle, it doesn't mean we are bashing it, we're just telling it how it is. Try and look for a local broadsheet article or local car magazine that actually tells it as it is . The problem with local readers is most of them have grown accustomed to the local 'articles' (which are more often just paraphrased ang candy-colored press releases) that the moment we point out negative points on a vehicle, people think we're bashing already.

I see your point, Otep. This is a major concern regarding our local car writers. They cannot help to be overly fair and thus they have a habit of promoting only the good stuff that car companies offer them. It's basically because the Philippine automotive industry is not mature enough to accept criticism from these few who have the power to sway the buying habits of the people. Once they hear about columnist A who thinks the steering is too vague on vehicle T or the suspension is wrong on car H, they save themselves by never giving another car for columnist A to test. That solves their problem, they think.

Hi tsikoteers! This is my first post and I am glad to be part of this community.

Negative point number 1:
Columnists here cannot speak out too much, lest they will be blacklisted by the auto company they honestly and wholeheartedly reviewed.

2:
At least somebody will buy the car, hoping to receive what the columnist liked about the car, but in the end it's the customer's loss, for he wasn't aptly warned of certain stuff that were wrong with the car he just bought.
:poke:
3:
Let's bring Chery to the picture, shall we? To show you that I'm not digressing at all, take a look at these. Fresh from their new showroom.
(see attached, I don't know how to put the picture directly on the post)
So, quality aside, Chery wins hands down. Motorists benefit from this situation because the baseline price of owning a new car has been set to a new low. And of course, help is just a staircase away if there is a problem with these vehicles. No drive tests were available, although a few units were already outside the parking area. What's more, nobody in the showroom actually asked for my contact info, just in case I'd buy one. I'm not so sure now if they are eager to sell the products I have just seen (and heard, listen to the door closing of a Cowin! A Norkis does better than that!) I'll post more pictures later.

[jvandanne]

some reviews i saw over the net
http://www.carsurvey.org/manufacturer_Chery.html

[tagarito]

More pictures. Take a look at that Tiggo, (sounds like tigok!) It looks like a RAV4 any day. And the V5, that is one awesome beast. I forgot to take pictures of the V5 and QQ exterior. the V5 looks like a cross between a Grandis and an Innova, and the QQ is truly a Spark rip-off. Clutches are too light, and all key inserts have ring lamps, but as always, they were never test driven yet. Go see for yourselves. One warning: if you actually go there, check if they replaced the side signal lamps, the one on the front fenders, on the Cowin and the QQ. Some, well, most of them were either cracked or broken loose, the kind you see when a bike sideswipes a car.

[CoDer]

Nice post tagarito, welcome to tsikot.