Tsikot.ph PHUV Prototype

**drey** · June 19th, 2007 06:42 PM

pwede rin yan... pero parang may weight ussue ang dalawa... why not use a pulley? I can fab a nice and clean method using only MTB SingleSpeed technology.

Less than PHP1000 kaya na (ofcourse the ingredients of this baby lang)! Parang labas nya roll-up and down window... and apply ko good layout design para di mag reklamo si hein!

**foifoi05** · June 20th, 2007 03:02 AM

* dprox, atlast got the time and mood. And made some sketches before goin home from work. Here's my take on the mvpmap phuv, same platform, and well i wanted it to be repaneled with a completely different approach - simple lang.
I shudnt have inked it to have that rounded edge feel. But i hope you guys get my point.
Here it is:

"PHUV Tableta" (this post is probably much appropriate for the tsikot phuv but i have other ideas in mind)

.... well maybe ugly but imo steers away from the classic Auv look.

And here is another concept based on the current MVPMAP PHUV (the grille is still there)

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hehe, too loud, just an artistic representation, But I believe kahit MOCK-UP full scale model lang kaya gawin ito (eg. A-toy, etc), then diplay as prototype/concept. Then design will be toned down for mass production shempre, that happens sa mga concept cars sa mga autoshows.

**ogpro** · June 20th, 2007 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by donbuggy

But how will a lady push the whole thing up after changing the tires?

Alternative: use a lever. Simple and lesser number of parts.

I like this, with some changes to make it ligher. It looks very simple (cheap!) to make too. I'm waiting for what drey will come up with too, sounds promising. That's thinking in the right direction.

Aside from the mechanism, how do you guys propose to make the rear door? Seems making it out of sheet metal will give it more joints to possibly rust out. How about molding the rear door panel out of fiberglass or the eurethane bumper material, then reinforcing with steel beams for impact protection?

**architect** · June 20th, 2007 08:20 AM

Actually I find the Tableta rather cute - sort of like a cartoon character with puffy cheeks. Interestingly, I think (based on the drawing) its A-line is potentially classic in that the design may remain trendy for years to come.

Two things -

1. When you fully open the front door won't it hit the side mirror? OyiL and I actually had previously discussed this alternative location for the mirror. Ideally they should be adjustable from the inside for upgraded models.

2. Is there a way you can make the panels more modular? As you may already know, the group is designing the Tsikot PhUV to be configurable as either a van, pick-up, AUV, or jeepney. For more detailed specs, kindly consult either OyiL, Dprox, or drey.

**straker** · June 20th, 2007 01:03 PM

Drey, thanks for cleaning my my handsketch!

DonBuggy's version is good, enough to challenge me.

. The only thing left going for my version is the space it occupies when its released, and the spare is ready for loading/unloading. Kung pwede, I'll mount a motor inside it so it goes up/down like a forklift.

Still in my thinking chair for the pick-up version. Since there's no secured locks to speak of, I still want a "quick-release" for the user, but hell for the would-be thief.

**orly_andico** · June 20th, 2007 01:08 PM

A motor powerful enough to lift a 50-pound wheel in a reasonable span of time would be quite beefy, and expensive. It would add complexity as well.

**donbuggy** · June 20th, 2007 01:47 PM

I also like the Tableta. Its quirky design reminds me of old Citroens and Renaults and the more recent Nissan S-Cargo. Just add flared wheel arches (bevelled of course) and move the front wheels forward.

foifoi05's other design looks wicked. Lots of complex curves. Are we capable of fabricating it?

Somebody please make a 3D drawing of the Tableta and its devilish companion. And safeorigin's slope nosed PhUV too.

**drey** · June 20th, 2007 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by straker

Drey, thanks for cleaning my my handsketch!

DonBuggy's version is good, enough to challenge me.

. The only thing left going for my version is the space it occupies when its released, and the spare is ready for loading/unloading. Kung pwede, I'll mount a motor inside it so it goes up/down like a forklift.

Still in my thinking chair for the pick-up version. Since there's no secured locks to speak of, I still want a "quick-release" for the user, but hell for the would-be thief.

yes, don buggy really has some good stuff...

Originally Posted by orly_andico

A motor powerful enough to lift a 50-pound wheel in a reasonable span of time would be quite beefy, and expensive. It would add complexity as well.

orly, actually we can even if its carrying a 50 pound wheel. Ever thought about Mountain Bike gears when shifted to very low gears? Magaan diba? Reliability wise din kasi the gears will last for decades, just make sure that it is lubricated everytime it gets noisy.

**OyiL** · June 20th, 2007 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by donbuggy

I also like the Tableta. Its quirky design reminds me of old Citroens and Renaults and the more recent Nissan S-Cargo. Just add flared wheel arches (bevelled of course) and move the front wheels forward.

foifoi05's other design looks wicked. Lots of complex curves. Are we capable of fabricating it?

Somebody please make a 3D drawing of the Tableta and its devilish companion. And safeorigin's slope nosed PhUV too.

supply the measurements(and views, front, rear, side, top). i can do a 3D model of it on my spare time. then do a photo-realistic render.

mas maganda yung render kung merong background na 3D model din ng pilipinas. dont know how to use pictures as background pa e.

mas talagang maganda siguro if everybody can 3D na.

**orly_andico** · June 20th, 2007 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by drey

orly, actually we can even if its carrying a 50 pound wheel. Ever thought about Mountain Bike gears when shifted to very low gears? Magaan diba? Reliability wise din kasi the gears will last for decades, just make sure that it is lubricated everytime it gets noisy.

I know all about that. That is why I said ".. in a reasonable time."

If you put too much gearing down so that your small motor can raise the wheel, there certainly will be torque, but due to the large gear ratio it will take forever to raise the wheel.

For an application such as this one, a motor such as the windshield wiper motor would be too small. Also a gear train is not cheap. I think this "feature" is a nice-to-have on the same level as the motorized trunk opener and closer on the 7-series BMW. In other words, out of place on an entry-level utility vehicle.