E10 Ethanol, bad for your engine & economy? [MERGED]

[ghosthunter]

I heard na nilabas na raw ng shell yung Super Unleaded nila na E10 (10% Ethanol) it's cheaper than ordinary unleaded yata.

it's only cheaper because of tax cuts and government subsidies. Otherwise it should be a bit more expensive.

I was wondering, will it affect the performance of our cars? Any Idea on its octane rating?

Basically E10 gasoline is 10% ethanol and 90% regular gasoline. Since ethanol has LESS energy per volume as compared to gasoline you will end up with LOWER performance and LOWER fuel milage.

In comparison, bio-diesel is a better alternative fuel as compared to regular diesel fuel. In fact, aside from filtration, you can use used vegetable oil in any regular diesel engine. (For colder climates, some organic solvent is needed to keep the fuel from solidifying.)

[ian_rex]

just read from the newspaper yesterday that if all things went smoothly, a law should be passed requiring biofuels as mandatory fuel to be sold on all gas stations- both 1% Coco Diesel and 5% Ethanol on Gasolines.

however, i'm just wondering. since ethanol wasn't compatible or perhaps recommended to carbureted engines. would anybody kind enough to post some insight or internet links about the effects of ethanol to carbureted engines?

thanks

[machspeed]

I just filled up my fortuner with a full tank at Shell Shaw Blvd, Mandaluyong beside Honda Cars. The engine sounded more quiet but I can't make any feedback yet on fuel efficiency.

[benjo_tabios]

I have been using shell e10 for almost a year now in two of my cars, a 1993 Lancer GLi and a 1996 Galant VR6. I used to load ordinary unleaded fuel. To extract the most out of the fuel, I advanced the timing of both cars by about 3 degrees. I have notices that the spark plugs are cleaner. Other than that, I haven't noticed any difference.

[torque2006]

I have been using shell e10 for almost a year now in two of my cars, a 1993 Lancer GLi and a 1996 Galant VR6. I used to load ordinary unleaded fuel. To extract the most out of the fuel, I advanced the timing of both cars by about 3 degrees. I have notices that the spark plugs are cleaner. Other than that, I haven't noticed any difference.

tama bossing. older engines would need their timing to be adjusted when using e10. tope aabutin mo jan pag di mo inadvance

pag nag-introduce ng e20/e35 or e80. dami na kelangan palitan for the engines.

[dardmc]

actually you cannot fill up your cars engines if it is not e10 compatible.. it is only fit for some ford focus cars flexi fuel edition here.. i do really think you should consult first your carmakers about this.. too much ethanol blend in your car is corrosive if it is not compatible with e10.. i also really doubt hondas claim that there engines are flexi fuel capable..

[1D4LV]

mazdamazda;567558]most EFI engines will run fine on E10 blend... but anything higher than 10% might cause some problems down the line.

though AFAIK, carb engines will not run properly even on E10.

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actually, this theory or fact is the one holding me to try E10.
mayron na ba dito naka experience using this sa carb engine?

[hominid]

actually you cannot fill up your cars engines if it is not e10 compatible.. it is only fit for some ford focus cars flexi fuel edition here.. i do really think you should consult first your carmakers about this.. too much ethanol blend in your car is corrosive if it is not compatible with e10.. i also really doubt hondas claim that there engines are flexi fuel capable..

Newer Hyundais, nasa manual, pede.

[red_wagen]

If it's the same as the winter gas that we have here then I wouldn't use it. You'll notice the car has less power and gas mileage will go down. Environmentally it's very good but as a driver I hate it. My 0.02

[fourtheboys96]

accdg to the Biofuels Act of 2006 (2007), all biofuel will be required to be blended to all petroleum-based fuels (gasoline and diesel).

for gasoline, initially 5% ethanol then later on 10% by volume

for diesel, initially 1% then later on 2 % by volume