Computer and Laptop Tech Thread

**Vodka** · August 3rd, 2023 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Walter

Replace the stock CPU cooler with aftermarket and it can run even faster and cooler ...

i've got watercooling but decided not to use it on the ryzen coz it's not throttling. it's just 70c (room a/c turned off) with all 12 threads maxed out with some GPU load (handbrake video encoding w/ amd VCE)

**oj88** · August 3rd, 2023 06:56 PM

Speaking of CPU coolers, the first aftermarket CPU cooler I ever bought in the early 2000's was a Thermaltake Volcano 11+. This was paired to an Athlon XP 1800+.

At max 3,400 RPM, it cools it just fine, even when slightly overclocked. But man... that Volcano 11+ is noisy as hell! Sold it a week later and reinstalled the stock cooler.

Learning from that mistake, I've since made deliberate efforts to make my future PC builds as silent as possible. That said, my current PC cooling go-to parts are:

CPU coolers: Noctua
Fans: Noctua or Arctic

I use a Noctua NH-U12P SE2 on my Xeon home media server and an NH-U14S on my Ryzen 5 main PC. Case cooling are either via Noctua P12 (flow-optimized) or Arctic P12 (static pressure optimized) fans. Everything is super silent, even at full load.

Never preferred liquid-cooling. IMO, it has one too many parts and a solution that creates more potential problems.

**Vodka** · August 6th, 2023 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by oj88

Speaking of CPU coolers, the first aftermarket CPU cooler I ever bought in the early 2000's was a Thermaltake Volcano 11+. This was paired to an Athlon XP 1800+.

At max 3,400 RPM, it cools it just fine, even when slightly overclocked. But man... that Volcano 11+ is noisy as hell! Sold it a week later and reinstalled the stock cooler.

Learning from that mistake, I've since made deliberate efforts to make my future PC builds as silent as possible. That said, my current PC cooling go-to parts are:

CPU coolers: Noctua
Fans: Noctua or Arctic

I use a Noctua NH-U12P SE2 on my Xeon home media server and an NH-U14S on my Ryzen 5 main PC. Case cooling are either via Noctua P12 (flow-optimized) or Arctic P12 (static pressure optimized) fans. Everything is super silent, even at full load.

Never preferred liquid-cooling. IMO, it has one too many parts and a solution that creates more potential problems.

yeah cpu cooling and overclocking used to be fun. i used to have an athlon XP as well, could probably overclock 50% (i don't remember). back then you could get a celeron 300 to run at 450. celeron 600 to 900.

amd x2 555 Black Editions could be overclocked, and on top of that enable the two dormant cores to turn it into quad core

but now chips like this ryzen 5600G don't have any headroom left. i think you could only add around 100mhz so i won't bother. this is a lot less than i got when i first overclocked my amd K5, 100mhz to 117mhz

**Walter** · August 7th, 2023 03:39 PM

There's also Be Quiet! coolers ...

**oj88** · August 8th, 2023 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Walter

There's also Be Quiet! coolers ...

Yeah, they're very good as well.

I'm just team beige on this because of Noctua's great aftersales support which I have experienced first hand.

Noctua once sent me a new mounting kit for free (NM-A90) because I wanted to rotate my CPU cooler 90 degrees. This was way back 2014. I just sent them an email and they shipped the part to me at my PH address, no less. I believe they still continue to provide free mounting kit upgrades so you can reuse your Noctua coolers to support future CPU generations and the subsequent newer mounting configurations. I've probably transplanted my NH-U12P SE2 three times in the last 12 years.

Noctua fans (have only used the NF-P12 long-term) are also superb and over a decade later, running 24x7, are still silent, turns silky smooth... like they were new.

**BratPAQ** · August 29th, 2023 10:11 PM

Can I ask what brand of mouse do you think is the most durable? I've been buying logitech bluetooth, and my last one logitech wireless, all lasted for average of 1 year, probably the longest is 2 years. Something about the sensor sa ilalim, nag i stutter na. Yung wireless naman scroll wheel will scroll back few lines, like 2 steps forward one step backward.

Can you recommend a good durable wireless mouse? I'm not looking for gaming mouse, just a reliable mouse for work.

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**yubby24** · August 30th, 2023 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by BratPAQ

Can I ask what brand of mouse do you think is the most durable? I've been buying logitech bluetooth, and my last one logitech wireless, all lasted for average of 1 year, probably the longest is 2 years. Something about the sensor sa ilalim, nag i stutter na. Yung wireless naman scroll wheel will scroll back few lines, like 2 steps forward one step backward.

Can you recommend a good durable wireless mouse? I'm not looking for gaming mouse, just a reliable mouse for work.

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What models have you tried? I have my Logitech MK270R (wireless kb and mouse) which just turned 3 years last week still working in good condition.

**BratPAQ** · August 30th, 2023 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by yubby24

What models have you tried? I have my Logitech MK270R (wireless kb and mouse) which just turned 3 years last week still working in good condition.

Logitech M331 which is wireless and M337 which is bluetooth. I just had 1 M331 but it has a clunky scroll wheel now. M337 bluetooth has stuttering sensor at the bottom and this is my 5th M337, including the others I bought for my family.

Lagi ko problem is yung sensor sa ilalim nag stutter or hang after a year or 2.

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**BratPAQ** · August 30th, 2023 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by BratPAQ

Logitech M331 which is wireless and M337 which is bluetooth. I just had 1 M331 but it has a clunky scroll wheel now. M337 bluetooth has stuttering sensor at the bottom and this is my 5th M337, including the others I bought for my family.

Lagi ko problem is yung sensor sa ilalim nag stutter or hang after a year or 2.

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Update; I used our strong vacuum cleaner (as opposed to desktop vacuum which I tried yesterday) to suck at the sensor and scroll wheel, both mouse are functioning well again.

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**yubby24** · August 30th, 2023 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by BratPAQ

Update; I used our strong vacuum cleaner (as opposed to desktop vacuum which I tried yesterday) to suck at the sensor and scroll wheel, both mouse are functioning well again.

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Great to hear! I cleaned both kb and mouse early this year yata. Opened them both (not much screws and complicated wirings) and cleaned thoroughly.