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June 27th, 2021 01:49 AM #1
Uninformed, poor, victims of propaganda. I would redirect my hate on those politicians who prey upon their vulnerabilities.
Pero yung iba nakapag aral naman and may access naman sa information pero they really just have a different way of looking at it.
Anyway, the original issue is parang nawala yung humanity natin. To think "decency" is basic. No one should have to tell a grown ass person how to be behave accordingly. Instead, ginawang insult maging "disente" as if it's a wrong trait so they won't have to step up to the plate. *sigh*
I honestly wanted duterte dead during the early years of this term para wag na siya masyado magkalat ng lagim. But I have the "decency" not to be proud on posting that on socmed. Charot. Now I don't want him dead. Tapusin na lang niya yan and harapan niya ICC.
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June 27th, 2021 12:21 PM #2
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June 27th, 2021 01:49 PM #4
why there are elites who support du30?
di niyo maexplain?
it's something called elite overproduction
and that precedes the collapse of societies
One recurring pattern Turchin noticed: something he calls “elite overproduction.”
This happens when a society’s ruling class grows faster than the number of rulers it needs. (For Turchin, “elite” seems to mean not just political leaders but all those managing companies, universities and other large social institutions.)
yes
One way for a ruling class to grow is biologically—think of Saudi Arabia, where princes and princesses are born faster than royal roles can be created for them. In the United States, elites overproduce themselves through economic and educational upward mobility: More and more people get rich, and more and more get educated. Neither of these sounds bad on its own. Don’t we want everyone to be rich and educated?
The problems begin when money and Harvard degrees become like royal titles in Saudi Arabia. If lots of people have them, but only some have real power, the ones who don’t have power eventually turn on the ones who do…
Elite jobs do not multiply as fast as elites do. There are still only 100 Senate seats, but more people than ever have enough money or degrees to think they should be running the country.
“You have a situation now where there are many more elites fighting for the same position, and some portion of them will convert to counter-elites,” Turchin said.
The excess elites become counter-elites, who then try to make alliances with the lower classes that usually don’t work out.
The final trigger of impending collapse, Turchin says, tends to be state insolvency. At some point rising insecurity becomes expensive.
The elites have to pacify unhappy citizens with handouts and freebies—and when these run out, they have to police dissent and oppress people.
Eventually the state exhausts all short-term solutions, and what was heretofore a coherent civilization disintegrates.Last edited by uls; June 27th, 2021 at 03:18 PM.
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June 27th, 2021 02:02 PM #5
Interesting theory, first time I’ve read about it
On the other hand, how do you counter it?
Rapid economic expansion?
Or limiting university graduates to just 1/3 the population? Like Singapore School’s Out: How Singapore Keeps University Reserved for the Elites - The News Lens International Edition
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June 27th, 2021 09:40 PM #6There is a new script circulating among the immoral paid hacks of the Duterte administration. These are the same paid hacks who I see some of my bereft of brains military acquaintances follow and whose drivel they had been sharing during the height of the red tagging campaign. This new script is an outrageous lie that Noynoy was intentionally left to die. There really is no evil greater than the Duterte administration and its supporters in this country we call home. For them to stoop to this level of disgusting falsehood is just a mirror of how putrid their hearts and souls are. I thought that treachery was the lowest that they could go, but to attack the grieving sisters and insinuate that they just left their brother to die has the mark of Satan branded all over these abominations of Duterte.
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June 27th, 2021 10:10 PM #7
I think it's this "article". Honestly, I have the same questions as this guy. What I can't fathom is why his family allowed him to skip 2 dialysis sessions. My Mom and I had an argument about it. I told my Mom, I don't care if my brother gets mad at me or hates me for it, but I am FORCING him to take a dialysis. I am not going anywhere until he gets the treatment he needs. I am sure they all know that a skipped dialysis session could mean death. I know very little about medicine and I am aware that the body will be poisoned if a person with kidney failure doesn't do dialysis. I was also shocked that the night before Pnoy died he requested for sinful foods for lunch (sisig, crispy pata and burger for lunch for someone whose kidney is failing?) Yun ang mahirap kasi he has no family with him and his staff cannot force him to do anything. Also, I don't know why he did not have a nurse checking on him every X number of hours knowing he is in bad shape?
Another thing I can't understand is why the cremation and short wake? I know it's none of my business pero kasi with Ninoy and Cory they allowed the public to see them one last time. I feel so bad because Pnoy was too young to die. If only a President could have 2 terms, I would have happily voted for him.
BTW I am against the MALICE in this article written by a Dutertard
WAS PNOY LEFT TO DIE?
By Jun Abines
The Yellows and Media are now starting their favorite game. Every story and statement about Pnoy's death is either aimed in making the current Administration look bad or painting the Yellows as the good guys.
But no one seems interested of knowing why and how Pnoy died. The man have serious renal problem and diabetes. But how come he was allowed to skip dialysis twice? How come no nurse or doctor attending him when his health status was very, very critical?
There was an interview of Pnoy's driver narrating what happened the night before up to the moment he was discovered dead on his chair. The story painted Pnoy's death as peaceful. But it ignored the fact that no health professional was present the very week Pnoy died.
Imagine yourself being a former President. You have several siblings and friends all super rich and powerful. You are very sick. Yet no one was there at your most critical moment of survival. No one cares to detail a nurse or doctor to look after you. No one checked if you were able to get the life-saving dialysis sessions. You died alone on your room. Sitting dead and cold on your chair all night. Only to be discovered next morning by a maid, a driver and bodyguard.
That was not a peaceful death. That was a tragic death for a rich and powerful former President. Thousands of flowers, songs of praises and eloquent eulogies on your tomb will not make up for it.
Where were his families? Where were his best friends? Where were the nuns, the priests and bishops? Where were these people people who showed him love and adorations in front of camera but were gone at his most vulnerable moments?
If someone only cared, Pnoy may still be breathing. Skipping two sessions of Dialysis is not an accident. No family member or health care professional would allow that to happen. No loving person would allow a very sick dear one in the hands of a maid, a driver and body guards.
And why did they cremate him immediately? Are they ashamed to let the world see how an uncared and abandoned dead Pnoy looked physically? Or was he dead along time ago ad some speculated?
The narrative that Pnoy died peacefully raise more questions than answers. His driver was interviewed on how he died instead of the attending Doctor who pronounced him dead. National disunity was blamed to have cause the death instead of failure to administer necessary medical care to the critically ill patient. They just don't add up. Fishy, fishy...fishy!
If any, Pnoy's death was a clear evidence what kind of people sorround him: Shady and Cunning. All greedy, hypocrites and selfish. He died the most painful death: Alone, Unloved and Left to Die.
It now appears a dead Pnoy was more useful than alive for his gimmick-hungry volture friends. They badly need a new political milleage for the fast coming Presidential elections.
To the very end, Pnoy was a victim of his very own Liberal Party's standard of Public service: PURE LIP SERVICE.Last edited by _Cathy_; June 27th, 2021 at 10:14 PM.
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June 28th, 2021 01:27 AM #8
Iniisip ko yan dati, like where is the divide? Vulnerabilities set aside, why would a well informed person support duterte?
I've been learning a lot about the narcissism topic in psychology lately and that explains it for me.
So my short and vague take on this is, psychology.
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June 28th, 2021 02:03 AM #9
This is how I feel about Pnoy
Opposite nga ng sinasabi ng Dutertards that the LP is using the death of Pnoy, because if they did e di sana nga hindi ni cremate at nag wake ng matagal
hinahanda ko na sarili ko sa worst case scenario that it be another duterte presidency
Matindi na ang divide sa politics lately, yung Mom and Aunt ko nga, they NEVER fought in their 70+ yrs of life e si Trump lang pala pag aawayan.
Earlier my Mom forwarded something about Pnoy to her pseudo daughter in the US and she was shocked when she responded negatively (Kris will die next daw) My Mom was so upset, she will give her a piece of her mind daw. I told her "do you want another fall out with someone close to you?" This "sister" of mine, hates Trump so my Mom didn't expect her to be Dutertard. This isn't the typical mold of a dutertard na crass and uncouth, she comes from a good family, prim and proper and well educated. Lately maiksi na patience ng Mom ko sa mga trumptards at dutertards, she used to NEVER talk politics with those na opposing views sa kanyaLast edited by _Cathy_; June 28th, 2021 at 02:05 AM.
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June 28th, 2021 09:58 PM #10
Plain and simple personal interest/s. Nothing more, could be vindictive or just plain survival or greediness mindset. Power and wealth are the uppers of the mind. Obvious this admin wants to be kept in power, addictive maging bida eh, lao na kugn wala kang paks sa nakakarami.
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