Taal Eruption 2020

[111prez]

And Arayat. Hopefully those two remain asleep forever. Itong Taal may "Napoleonic complex" kasi eh.

I did not realize that Arayat was also a volcano. Glad its very dormant.

Yung Mt. Makiling may mga geothermal springs pa kaya there is still some activity down there.

[Yatta]

i'm no volcanologist.
which is prefered?
multiple but small activities,
or few activities,
...big-bang-wise?

In general more frequent activities result in milder eruptions. But there are other factors that affect eruption-styles.

[Yatta]

True. But with the right instruments and proper monitoring, it can be done.

An example?

Right in our own backyard. The US military evacuated Subic and Clark just a few days before Pinatubo erupted. They knew but Phivolcs, if I remember correctly, pooh poohed them.

Maybe hearsay, thats not what the history books say. Get a copy of Fire and Mud.

Already mentioned some of the most advanced nations up there and they still lost a lot of people from eruptions, as late as 2019. Last casualties in a Philippine volcanic eruption was in Mayon in 2013 and those were tourists.

[dr. d]

Maybe hearsay, thats not what the history books say. Get a copy of Fire and Mud.

can you spare us from the chore, sir?
what did Fire and Mud say?

[111prez]

Maybe hearsay, thats not what the history books say. Get a copy of Fire and Mud.

Already mentioned some of the most advanced nations up there and they still lost a lot of people from eruptions, as late as 2019. Last casualties in a Philippine volcanic eruption was in Mayon in 2013 and those were tourists.

Sorry. I was not able to read Fire and Mud.

What I do know is from experience during that time I was in Manila and it was all over the news that the US military was evacuating Subic and Clark.

I clearly remember that Phivolcs told the general public then that there was nothing to worry about.

Let's leave it at that, shall we, and continue with the discussion on Taal.

[kagalingan]

Poverty pushes poor people to grab the dragger. It's not stupidity, also not something limited to nationality.

Thank you for putting into words my frustration to Kags post.

understood na yun sa mahihirap. Pero yung pinapatamaan ko sa post ko eh yung mga mayor governor na hindi nakakintindi ng zoning at bakit inaallow condominium tabi tabi. Tapos pag nagkadisaster magpapiainterview sa tv iiyak-iyak sa damage ng city. Mahina kasi sa anticipation puro mga You Only Live Once.

kagalingan looks down on Filipinos kasi

cathey hinid mo pa sinasagot, Saan graduate ng school mga politician ng peenas bakit mahihina dumiskarte.

Mga skwelahan dtio top schools hindi nation budiling tinuturo. Puro negosyante mga scammer ala casa dealership!!!! ala mvis.

yung sa senate inquiry yung mga motorycles na ayaw ibenta cash dapat hulugan, saan grumadweight mga namumuno jan hello???? TAlaga diniskartehan sobrang sagad sa buto pagkagahaman.

Tapos ang lalakas pa magcompare bakit ibang bansa maayos daw pag may disaster at pandemic halllerr!!!! Yung iniexample na new zealand eh land area kasing laki ng pinas pero population 5million. Tapos comparison pinas na 110million. Juicecolored talaga hahaahahh.

AKo lang dati pa nagwoworry sa dami tao ng peenas. Makakain nyo ba kwarta ngayon? Kita nyo eyeopenr ng covid. Pag puno hospital ano kwenta ng pera nyo. KAGALINGAN SUPER RIGHT DATI PA!!!!

Yung educational system ng pinas dapat buwagin kasi it produces manipulators....

kaya cathey bawat puri mo sa top school ng peenas. Nandito ako para magsabi = May nanalo na ba nobel peace prize? Waley kasi madami scammer.

[dr. d]

understood na yun sa mahihirap. Pero yung pinapatamaan ko sa post ko eh yung mga mayor governor na hindi nakakintindi ng zoning at bakit inaallow condominium tabi tabi. Tapos pag nagkadisaster magpapiainterview sa tv iiyak-iyak sa damage ng city. Mahina kasi sa anticipation puro mga You Only Live Once.



cathey hinid mo pa sinasagot, Saan graduate ng school mga politician ng peenas bakit mahihina dumiskarte.

Mga skwelahan dtio top schools hindi nation budiling tinuturo. Puro negosyante mga scammer ala casa dealership!!!! ala mvis.

yung sa senate inquiry yung mga motorycles na ayaw ibenta cash dapat hulugan, saan grumadweight mga namumuno jan hello???? TAlaga diniskartehan sobrang sagad sa buto pagkagahaman.

Tapos ang lalakas pa magcompare bakit ibang bansa maayos daw pag may disaster at pandemic halllerr!!!! Yung iniexample na new zealand eh land area kasing laki ng pinas pero population 5million. Tapos comparison pinas na 110million. Juicecolored talaga hahaahahh.

AKo lang dati pa nagwoworry sa dami tao ng peenas. Makakain nyo ba kwarta ngayon? Kita nyo eyeopenr ng covid. Pag puno hospital ano kwenta ng pera nyo. KAGALINGAN SUPER RIGHT DATI PA!!!!

Yung educational system ng pinas dapat buwagin kasi it produces manipulators....

kaya cathey bawat puro mo sa top school ng peenas. Nandito ako para magsabi = May nanalo na ba nobel peace prize? Waley kasi madami scammer.

yup.
rotten education system.
lookit what it spawned: a kagalingan!
heh heh heh.

[kagalingan]

doc,

remember I didnot study ng college. Pumasa ako kakabigay ng cake careof sa bakery jan sa labas ng white plains. Late 90s yun im into flourless cakes. Yan ang pangsuhol ko.

Nung highschool nag-aral ako pero pinipili ko lang like kung ano feel ko.

My true education eh after college na sa experience at sa mga documentaries, science fiction napapanuod ko.

bago ako magunwind today. May iiwan ako sa inyo

it has been said "nonfiction follows fiction." Pinagmumuni-munihan ko hindi pa nagsisink-in sa akin.

[dr. d]

doc,

remember I didnot study ng college. Pumasa ako kakabigay ng cake careof sa bakery jan sa labas ng white plains. Late 90s yun im into flourless cakes. Yan ang pangsuhol ko.

Nung highschool nag-aral ako pero pinipili ko lang like kung ano feel ko.

My true education eh after college na sa experience at sa mga documentaries, science fiction napapanuod ko.

bago ako magunwind today. May iiwan ako sa inyo

it has been said "nonfiction follows fiction." Pinagmumuni-munihan ko ito hindi pa nagsisink-in sa akin.

unless you never went to school,
incomplete or otherwise, you're still the product of the education system.

[Yatta]

Sorry. I was not able to read Fire and Mud.

What I do know is from experience during that time I was in Manila and it was all over the news that the US military was evacuating Subic and Clark.

I clearly remember that Phivolcs told the general public then that there was nothing to worry about.

Let's leave it at that, shall we, and continue with the discussion on Taal.

Sorry I remembered it differently, PHIVOLCS along with the Americans said evacuate but it was the local politicians and the populace who refused, batang 80s-90s ako sa Bulacan. Apologies but I'm afraid I will have to call you out for that wrong assertion.

Volcanic Hazard Communication at Pinatubo from 1991 to 215 | SpringerLink

Pinatubo 25 Years Later: Eight Ways the Eruption Broke Ground - Eos

"Language wasn’t the only obstacle. “One of our biggest challenges when we got to the Philippines was to actually convince people [that Pinatubo] was in fact a volcano,” Ewert said. Many locals accused the scientists from both PHIVOLCS and USGS of lying for financial gain or political reasons."

Punongbayan

"The issue of credibility was a difficult one. Residents and their leaders were understandably skeptical about phenomena that they had never seen and that they either could not or did not wish to imagine. Furthermore, we as scientists were largely unknown to those at risk. We were suspected of various faults, chiefly ignorance and utter foolishness, but also of trying to make sensational headlines, pursuing an academic agenda cloaked in concern, conducting counterinsurgency reconnaissance, being dupes of the U.S. military, raising funds for our agencies, land-grabbing, and more. Some unknown persons or groups also used PHIVOLCS' name during this time to fraudulently seek relief goods. Such distractions might have been ignored were it not for the urgency of convincing skeptics, especially those in positions of leadership. We did not want to close minds through unduly aggressive messages; neither did we want to be so meek that we were ignored."