Usapang Boxing Thread

[baludoy]

Pac earned the right to cherry pick. Many jealous Pinoys may not like him but he has done a lot for the sport of boxing.

And BTW, fighting Thurman isnt cherry-picking.

I think Shadow meant Mayweather cherry picks his opponents. And NO. There are a lot of people who do not like Pacquiao not because of jealousy over his money or success but because of his politics. This is REGARDLESS OF, or DESPITE what he's done for boxing.

very well said.

manny should just stick to boxing. if he really wants to help his fellow disenfranchised and poverty stricken countrymen, he could do so in a private capacity, like many other fortunate people have been doing.

btw, whatever happened to pacquiao's tax paying anomaly w/c the bir was looking into? ginamitan ng politika din iyon eh

[tsupermario]

Pac earned the right to cherry pick.
...
And BTW, fighting Thurman isnt cherry-picking.

I agree. pac is the draw and he earned the right to dictate the terms. but for PPV buys, the money is on unification bouts, unless mayweather suddenly comes out of retirement.

lomachenko and mikey garcia should fight at lightweight.

[tsupermario]

Floyd Mayweather Trashes Manny Pacquiao On Instagram Amid Rematch Talks

nasa social media pala ang bakbakang pac-mayweather 2 lol

[dr. d]

Floyd Mayweather Trashes Manny Pacquiao On Instagram Amid Rematch Talks

nasa social media pala ang bakbakang pac-mayweather 2 lol

"at the right price, anything will sell."

my feeling is, deep in his heart of hearts, he knows just how close he came to losing, had his opponent had a better shoulder back then.

paQman follower here.

[kagalingan]

The effects of boxing. If not dokleng, parkinsons eh violenteng pagkamatay.

Maxim Dadashev's Death a Heartbreaking Result of a Violent Sport
[Sports Illustrated]
Chris Mannix
Sports IllustratedJul 24, 2019, 2:13 PM



Maxim Dadashev died at the age of 28 after incurring brain injuries following a fight with Subriel Matias. But as much as we want to specifically place the blame on someone, these are the type of tragedies that can result from such a punishing sport like boxing.


What do you say?

What do you say in the aftermath of something so shocking and yet so plausible? Maxim Dadashev didn’t believe he was putting his life on the line when he stepped between the ropes to face Subriel Matias in a battle of unbeaten contenders last Friday. But the brain wasn’t meant to be bounced around like Dadashev’s was for 11 rounds. Dadashev collapsed soon after he left the ring, was placed in a medically induced coma over the weekend and died on Tuesday, at 28.

What do you do?

What do you do when sports produce such an unspeakable tragedy? You want to blame someone. The referee, maybe. Could Kenny Chevalier have stopped the fight sooner? I was ringside in Oxon Hill, Md., for Dadashev-Matias. Matias controlled the fight, but Dadashev was never out on his feet. He spent most of the night fighting backward, but he was fighting. If you’re looking for a moment the referee missed, there wasn’t one.

How about the corner? Believe me: Buddy McGirt, the Hall of Fame fighter turned respected trainer, will blame himself enough. McGirt told ESPN he thought about throwing the towel in after the ninth round, with Dadashev fading and the scorecards clearly tilting Matias’s way. His pleas to Dadashev in the corner after the 11th went viral, with McGirt desperately trying to convince Dadashev to let him stop it. He ultimately did, but knowing McGirt, it’s likely he will forever wonder what would happen had he stopped it a couple of rounds sooner.

What do you do?

You want this to be a call to arms for something, a precursor to change. But what can you change? Boxing will forever be a dangerous sport. You want to slap on headgear? Watch interest in boxing fade. Force fighters to stuff extra padding in their gloves? Watch television networks bail.

This is a sport that encourages violence, that rewards it. Recently, I spoke with Demetrius Andrade, a middleweight titleholder and one of the most talented fighters in boxing—but not one known for big knockouts. I asked him: Would we see him chase one the next time out? He turned it around: If I get in a war, he asked rhetorically, will you come visit me in the hospital?

In boxing, winning gets you paid. Winning violently gets you paid well. We don’t remember titleholders, not in an era where titles are largely meaningless. We remember warriors. We remember Arturo Gatti and Micky Ward, Oscar De La Hoya and Manny Pacquiao, Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson. We remember significant fights, like the 30 rounds Gatti and Ward battled or the night Sugar Ray Leonard made Roberto Duran quit.

Google lists of boxing’s best fights. How many chess matches do you see?

This is a problem without a solution. Want to boycott boxing? There’s certainly an ethical dilemma to rooting for violence, to having a gladiator-like bloodthirst that comes with a public stamp of approval. Tragedies like Dadashev’s are horrific, but they are far from the only fallout. Boxers, like NFL players, rarely enjoy healthy retirements. There is a price you pay for taking as much punishment as boxers do, and if you’re in the game long enough, you’re likely to pay it.

And we haven’t even seen the nightmare scenario. Drug testing in boxing is still underwhelming. Advanced testing programs like VADA and USADA have gotten involved in the top tier fights, but the vast majority of matches are subject to state testing, which is often pathetically weak.

What happens when a fighter is killed in the ring … and his opponent tests positive for something?

Is it criminal? Do PED’s make a fighter a weapon?

Still, boxing, like the NFL, isn’t going anywhere. There will always be fighters, all of whom are willing to take the risk. “Tragedies like these bring out many arguments that ultimately won’t be dealt with,” tweeted Sergio Mora, a former junior middleweight champion. “When it comes down to it, WE KNOW what we sign up for and it’s a dangerous passion.”

Here’s another reality: Boxing saves more lives than it takes. Boxers aren’t born in the suburbs. Most often they are raised in the most challenging environments. Floyd Mayweather in Grand Rapids, amidst crime and poverty, with his father, staring down the barrel of a gun, once used him as a human shield. Pacquiao in the poorest sections of the Philippines. Tyson in the violent streets of Brownsville. For many, boxing isn’t a way out. It’s the only way out.

Want to do something? Start here: Don’t complain if a referee stops a fight a little bit early. Don’t be outraged if a corner throws in the towel. Don’t ever, ever suggest a fighter should be allowed to go out on his shield. Demand state commissions be more thorough; in the immediate aftermath of the fight, Dadashev’s manager, Egis Klimas, said doctors were trying to track down Dadashev’s wife to find out if Dadashev had any allergies or had any previous surgeries. It’s bonkers that information wasn’t required beforehand.

Insist all fighters undergo two MRI’s per year, or they can’t fight. When a fighter gets knocked out, issue a mandatory three-month suspension, a rule change Daniel Franco, a former featherweight contender who saw his life nearly snuffed out after suffering a brain bleed during a fight two years ago, has championed. Encourage every fighter to be enrolled in mandatory, year-round advanced drug testing.

There’s no one to blame for what happened to Dadashev last week.

It happened, and it will happen again.

Boxing will never be a safe sport. All it can do is make sure it’s as safe as it can possibly be.

Maxim Dadashev'''s Death a Heartbreaking Result of a Violent Sport

[dr. d]

The effects of boxing. If not dokleng, parkinsons eh violenteng pagkamatay.





Maxim Dadashev'''s Death a Heartbreaking Result of a Violent Sport

the fact of life,
some folks have heads better built for boxing than others' .
sometimes, it's not what's below the neck that matters, but what's above it.

[kagalingan]

naku ito 2nd death in boxing sa isang linggo lang

Hugo Santillan becomes second boxer in a week to die from fight injuries
Coral Barry
Thursday 25 Jul 2019 3:39 pm


Second boxer dead in space of a week as Hugo Santillan dies

South American boxer Hugo Santillan has died from injuries sustained in a fight last weekend.

Santillan, 23, was hospitalised after a ten-round split decision against Eduardo Abreu, and reportedly passed out before the verdict was read out.

The WBC said: ‘[Hugo] passed away from injuries suffered during Saturday’s fight which ended in a draw.

‘We join Hugo’s family and friends in grief, support and wish prompt resignation.’

The super-lightweight (19-6-2) is the second boxer this week to die from fight injuries after the tragic death of Russian Maxim Dadashev on Tuesday.

Kalle Sauerland, a promoter, has lead tributes to Santillan, acknowledging a tragic week for boxing.

‘A sad, sad week for boxing,’ Sauerland said. ‘We are devastated to hear that 23 year old Hugo Santillan has passed away following a bout this weekend in his native Argentina. RIP.’

Hugo Santillan becomes second boxer in a week to die from fight injuries | Metro News


ano laban kay spece jr? vladimir lomachenco? and terence crawford. Bugbug ka sa tatlo na yan.

the boxing gods is telling paki to enjoy your earnings and be a good politician.

[madball]

Mas marami pa rin ang namamatay sa ibang sports.

I think Pacman is not going to retire until he suffers a brutal loss. It's funny how some people think he's only fighting amateur bums nowadays. Like really? A guy like Thurman was supposed to be an easy win?

[dct]

Hindi man great si thurman, not bad na sya. Kaya pacman earned the respect of boxing fans worldwide. Magandang chance na to mag retire na mabangong pangalan nya. Lalo na't nakabangon na sya sa pabagsak niyang career nung knock out nya kay marquez

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[tsupermario]

the boxing public is hard to impress [emoji23] anybody besides mayweather is a bum and does not deserve to be in the ring with pac [emoji12]

will pac retire and miss out on 8 digit guaranteed money? as long as there is an offer like that, for pac its tough to turn down.

EXCLUSIVE: Amir Khan explains situation regarding Manny Pacquiao fight

si amir khan na daw ang next [emoji28]