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  1. Join Date
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    #11
    Ang mga titingnan to have a job.

    1. School
    2. Credential sa School --- org or clubs
    3. Personality

    Pero ang pinakamahalaga dito is PERSONALITY - DISKARTE. How can you sell / PROMOTE yourself.

    May staff ako na napakasipag at napakatalino, hindi sya mapromote promote dahil wala syang diskarte to tell everybody how good she is. Mahilig lang kasi sa isang tabi tanggap lang nang tanggap nang trabaho. ROBOT nga ang tawag sa kanya.

    Even you dont have a Good school, average grade but a TONS of personality. sigurado ako aangat sya

  2. Join Date
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    #12
    ^ agree sir.

    Kung ako magkakaroon ng anak na babae. Kung hindi siya mangangarap as a doctor or lawyer... tuturuan ko na lang siya mag manage ng negosyo or gagawan ko siya ng negosyo base sa gusto niyang course at hilig niya. Ayoko ng inuutusan ng iba ang anak ko lalo na siguro kung babae. Hehe, baka hindi ko ma tiis.
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    Sabi ko nga sa misis ko. Kung 1M papamana ko sa anak kung lalaki. E baka pag babae e 2M dapat pamana ko.

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    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    mba without experience is worthless. work experience muna bago masters.

    she should target to work for companies that send their employees for their mba while working.
    +1 agree.

    that's why i said in another thread that a master's degree (MNSA program) at NDCP is what matters to me because you can't get in there unless you're ltcol in the AFP, psupt in the pnp, or holding a supervisory rank at least SG24 in the civilian government, or a top level manager in the private sector. so, not just any tom, dick, and harry can get it without EXPERIENCE.

    it makes the man or woman. whether you shoveled shits, pushed karitons, carried hollow blocks on your back in your early life, it matters not, as long as you have that EXPERIENCE.

    booker t. washington once said: I have learned that success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome while trying to succeed.

  4. Join Date
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    #14
    known school + diskarte + connection siguradong asenso ng daughter mo. Sa custom madali daw yumaman

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    #15
    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    Undergrad degree gets you your first job.

    Getting a higher paying one is all about diskarte.

    Suggest you let your kid work first, get some experience, get the masteral degree then look for a new job.
    agree.... i know people who have masteral degrees but are underpaid by standards, because, well...... she cannot really manage a department, because of personal attitude towards her people.

    for immediate employment, i suggest that she goes to work first, get experience and feel of the corporate culture, and study for her masteral program after 2-3 years.....

    and hwag mo na sponsoran..... kaya na nya yan on her own from her salary.

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    #16
    It won't help much unless you send your daughter to a very prestigious school like Wharton or Harvard In Manila it will only matter in terms of salary if you took your MBA abroad or at AIM. A local MBA will only give you a premium but it does not equate to a much higher salary upon graduation. It could also be a step into getting in companies that prefer an MBA degree such as ADB, but you will still start as a staff if you only have a few years of experience.

    Also, it does not make sense to take an MBA right after graduation. Most lessons are supposed to apply in the workplace. The graduate schools I know of require x number of work experience before you could qualify for the program. In the organization where I work, an MBA degree does not guarantee a management position, you are only given a small premium in salary. It is the undergraduate degree that is critical in getting into a good corporation and starting salary then the rest is up to the person on how he or she will handle her career. It's a reality that most prestigious companies prefer graduates of UP Diliman, DLSU Manila and Ateneo de Manila. They would accept grads from other school but the person should be with honors. In my first job, fresh graduates of Management Engineering from Ateneo are hired as MTs while the rest of us commoners start of as staff. We were all joking about how we took the wrong course (and school for non Ateneans) but it's not like we have the brains to finish ME :bwahaha:

    In getting a promotion your network and personality matters a lot. I do know a lot of good employees that are very hardworking and diligent but have a hard time getting a promotion because they lack the network or assertiveness to take on a leadership role. There are also employees who are so good at kissing the right ass that they skyrocketed into upper management, that's also a sad reality that happens a lot. O basta magaling magsalita, kahit sabog trabaho That's where an MBA degree will help if a person is not good in speaking in front of an audience or lacks confidence. MBA will teach you how to speak in front of an audience with confidence. I used to dread presentations, but now I even volunteer to make presentations

    There is a study that the Philippines is one of the best countries for a woman to have a career because there is virtually no glass ceiling. We've had 2 women presidents and so much women in management. I am no feminist but I do not agree that women cannot be "utus utusan". My dad treats me delicately but has taught me the value of being able to take care of myself. He is happy for me to have a career and don't mind na "utus utusan ako", in fact he likes that because it teaches me how to submit to authority. I have encountered work mates that have problems with authority and that did not get them anywhere.

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    #17
    May neighbor kami dati. She's from Mindanao. W/ honors sya & 2 courses pa tinapos. Kaso, never heard yung school nya. Hirap na hirap makapasok sa Manila.

    Since may hitsura sya, nasa Landmark na sya working as a Saleslady.

    So important din talaga yung school.

  8. Join Date
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    #18
    Nasa bata yan. Kung mahusay kahit walang MBA mabilis aangat and if ever maliitan, mahirapan sa first job alam nya kung dapat lumipat. Now kung nakakailang lipat na ganun pa rin that's the time to study and for sure mas maganda kaysa una mapapasukan at the same time makikita mo na interesado talaga ang bata.

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    #19
    As a fresh grad, i don't think you can expect too much in terms of salary. For now, focus muna on getting relevant experience, kahit bugbog sa trabaho, kahit maliit sweldo. At the very least, magkakalaman na yung resume niya when looking for other job ops.

    Regarding getting a job in MM vs sa province: i guess mas me impact to get work experience here, but everybody else has the same idea, so you are competing with a lot more people for the same job. i think it depends on the company, and whether the job/company can let you gain relevant skills/experience, maybe even clear career path. Believe me, not all companies(even those na mabago ang pangalan) take good care of the employees in that regard.

    Can't comment much on networking/soft skills, except that it may be the most important skill you need, in life or in work.

  10. Join Date
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    #20
    Academics will get your foot in the door, pero when it comes down to it, soft skills ang nag pe play ng bigger role sa success.

    Also, according to a recent research, its better to move on to different jobs talaga pag gusto mo lumaki ang sweldo mo, instead of waiting for promotions. Max na daw ang 3 years per company.

    I kinda agree, im stuck with my first and only company for almost 10 years now. Mejo napag iwanan nako sa sweldo, kahit na 4 times nako na promote.

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