Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

**homhomnova** · December 9th, 2015 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by whiteb16a

This picture was taken 10:40am yesterday at the gate of our village in Molino. According to the guard on duty, the driver apparently lost control of the vehicle and ran over the flower pot almost hitting the guard house.

Vehicle was entering the village gate and is suppose to be slowing down, but accelerated instead and crashed. No one was hurt in the incident.

I don't know for sure if the crash was the driver's fault or the vehicle's, but vehicles entering our village gate has to pass through a lot of road humps and has to slow down, not to mention the guard on duty flags down every vehicle. Go figure. Just sharing.

Nahihiwagaan na talaga ako.. bakit yung ibang drayber nagiging bobo pag montero ang minamaneho? tsk tsk tsk..

**niky** · December 9th, 2015 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Monseratto

Toyota settles unintended acceleration case after $3 million jury verdict - Oct. 25, 2013

A jury is not a technical panel made up of experts, sadly. It comes down to who has the most convincing lawyers, in the end, in a civil case like this. The electronic pedal theory has never been proven to the satisfaction of any technical panel.

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And it's incorrect to say the DOT found that pedal misapplication was the only culprit. Toyota USA was found to have issues with floormats and mechanical sticking of the pedals. They were fined epically because they took so long to admit the problem and issue a recall on those.

**ClaNker** · December 9th, 2015 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by niky

A jury is not a technical panel made up of experts, sadly. It comes down to who has the most convincing lawyers, in the end, in a civil case like this. The electronic pedal theory has never been proven to the satisfaction of any technical panel.

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And it's incorrect to say the DOT found that pedal misapplication was the only culprit. Toyota USA was found to have issues with floormats and mechanical sticking of the pedals. They were fined epically because they took so long to admit the problem and issue a recall on those.

The DOT concluded that, other than a number of incidents caused by accelerators hanging up on incorrectly fitted floor mats, the accidents were caused by drivers depressing their accelerators when they intended to apply their brakes. “Pedal misapplication” was the DOT’s delicate terminology for this phenomenon.

DOJ at FIB na ang gumawa ng investigation resulting to a heavy fine.

**Jfox** · December 9th, 2015 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by ClaNker

Let me guess... "Ok lang yan wala namang namatay eh."

Ano ang verdict ng DOT sa toyota SUA case? Driver error, and what happened after that? $1.2B

No that is not the point. We do not wish anyone get killed by a faulty car. Just like everyone, we want to know the truth, we want everyone to live a happy and prosperous lives. But based on historical data, and your statement included, toyota has the worst safety record and has the most people killed compared to mitsubishi. And just recently, a congressman from quezon city, without proper investigation, who is riding the issue, to boost his poor popularity, wants to ban all montero sports in our streets??? what an *$#0£€!

**frostmourn** · December 9th, 2015 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Jfox

No that is not the point. We do not wish anyone get killed by a faulty car. Just like everyone, we want to know the truth, we want everyone to live a happy and prosperous lives. But based on historical data, and your statement included, toyota has the worst safety record and has the most people killed compared to mitsubishi. And just recently, a congressman from quezon city, without proper investigation, who is riding the issue, to boost his poor popularity, wants to ban all montero sports in our streets??? what an *$#0£€!

Hindi ka ba tinatamad magreply? Sipag mo ah. Dapat fanboy sa fanboy lang. Hahaha

**Jfox** · December 9th, 2015 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by frostmourn

Hindi ka ba tinatamad magreply? Sipag mo ah. Dapat fanboy sa fanboy lang. Hahaha

Im just saying.... nothing personal po.

**jadenbanas** · December 9th, 2015 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by unmarked

mahina ata damage control/PR ng mitsu. or baka non-existent LOL. may spokesperson ba sila? ung consistent na sya lang? sorry ala akong TV ngayon puro online lang.

Tama bro yung tipong agresibong mag salita at straight to the point na may paninindigan

**Monseratto** · December 9th, 2015 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by niky

A jury is not a technical panel made up of experts, sadly. It comes down to who has the most convincing lawyers, in the end, in a civil case like this. The electronic pedal theory has never been proven to the satisfaction of any technical panel.

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And it's incorrect to say the DOT found that pedal misapplication was the only culprit. Toyota USA was found to have issues with floormats and mechanical sticking of the pedals. They were fined epically because they took so long to admit the problem and issue a recall on those.

Toyota knew of the sticky pedal problem a year before the SUA cases blew up... Rather call an outright recall, they hid it until it became too obvious,

The problem had surfaced in Toyota vehicles in Europe in 2008, causing instances of uncontrolled acceleration. In early 2009, the company gave European Toyota distributors information about the sticky pedals along with instructions to replace them if customers complained.

Meanwhile, rather than issuing a recall, the company quietly directed its pedal supplier to change parts in Europe and made plans to roll out the same change in the United States.

By then, the problem had already cropped up in cars sold in the United States, according to the documents. At nearly the same time as the highly publicized San Diego accident, Toyota staffers sent a memo to the company’s headquarters in Japan warning of an unintended-acceleration problem apart from the one caused by the floor mats.

For several months, Toyota received more evidence of the pedal problem and quietly made plans to address it without informing federal safety officials as required by law. Concerned that federal officials would learn about these plans, the company canceled the change in pedal design and communicated that change orally rather than in writing, so there would be no paper trail.

After more instances of sticky pedals came to the company’s attention in 2009, executives decided to disclose the issue to federal regulators and issue a new recall. But the deception did not end there. After the recall was completed, the company produced an inaccurate timeline and submitted it to federal regulators and Congress, making it appear as if the company had acted quickly to address the sticky-pedal issue.

“Rather than promptly disclosing and correcting safety issues about which they were aware, Toyota made misleading public statements to consumers and gave inaccurate facts to members of Congress,” Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. said at a news conference announcing the settlement.

**ClaNker** · December 9th, 2015 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Jfox

No that is not the point. We do not wish anyone get killed by a faulty car. Just like everyone, we want to know the truth, we want everyone to live a happy and prosperous lives. But based on historical data, and your statement included, toyota has the worst safety record and has the most people killed compared to mitsubishi. And just recently, a congressman from quezon city, without proper investigation, who is riding the issue, to boost his poor popularity, wants to ban all montero sports in our streets??? what an *$#0£€!

Of course you want to know the truth. "Driver error yan."

Ilang ang SUA cases ng Montero before this blew out of proportion? Ilang ang SUA cases that resulted to buy back?

Kelan ang unang reported case ng Montero, at kelan ang unang buy back case nila? Then kelan sila ng nag lagay ng shift lock?

Sino ang hinarap ng Montero sa public? Abogado nila. You want to know the truth, right?

**CVT** · December 9th, 2015 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by jadenbanas

Tama bro yung tipong agresibong mag salita at straight to the point na may paninindigan

This is the encouragement that I was (vainly) trying to rub on their upper management in my letter to them,- as they have been maliciously maligned by that particular station, at least for those where they have "visual proof".

I was telling them too, that their unblemished reputation is their foremost responsibility to themselves, and their stakeholders, which includes their current and future customers.

I surmised that they don't want any ruffled feathers anywhere....

"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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