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    #1801
    Wow so any electronic or mechanical issue is ruled out.

    Brilliant.

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    #1802
    ang dami kasi dto nagmamagaling edi sana sumali cla dun sa team ng DTI para cla mismo nag imbestiga =)

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    #1803
    Quote Originally Posted by HUMABOL KA View Post
    pero the problem is "BAT SA MONTERO LANG BAT SA STRADA HINDI NANGYAYARI UN" kung may unang dapat mag manifest ng problema sa sensor STRADA dapat un dahil mas nauna lumabas sa market ang strada kesa montero
    Yan nga ang head-scratcher, bakit specific lang sa MS, pero wala sa ka twin model nya.
    Unlike sa kaso ng Toyota SUA, yung defect ay across sa ibang model and reported cases not only in the US but also in Europe and China.
    It even involve, Toyotas Lexus sister company. Yan klaro part o sensor design defect yan.
    Sa MS, isolated lang sa Pinas at sa specific model lang.
    As mentioned by TGP, may common denominator yan, yung mga oldies na driver, walang insurance, out of warranty at facing multiple damage expenses.

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    #1804
    Yung iba dito pwede magpa-air sa abs cbn. Matatawag rin kayong expert

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    #1805
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Yan nga ang head-scratcher, bakit specific lang sa MS, pero wala sa ka twin model nya.
    Unlike sa kaso ng Toyota SUA, yung defect ay across sa ibang model and reported cases not only in the US but also in Europe and China.
    It even involve, Toyotas Lexus sister company. Yan klaro part o sensor design defect yan.
    Sa MS, isolated lang sa Pinas at sa specific model lang.
    As mentioned by TGP, may common denominator yan, yung mga oldies na driver, walang insurance, out of warranty at facing multiple damage expenses.
    yup they can have all the different theory or speculations in the world but the fact remains na "BAKIT SA STRADA HINDI NANGYAYARI UN BAKIT SA MONTERO LANG EH MECHANICALLY AND ELECTRONICALLY IDENTICAL" cla. hindi na lang kasi antayin ung findings nung team na gumagawa nung imbestigayson

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    #1806
    Bat ang Hindi nyo Alamin Kung ano ang *** ng mga nagrereklamo, bakla, female, matandang bakla, saka lalaking may asawa pero bakla din


    It will say a lot about this SUA issue coz it only started in Blogs and social media

    Yun lang sa pusa video, kitang-kita ang kinis at coniotic ni bossing tapos hawak sa dibdib parang binabae

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    Ang totoong lalaki honorable enough to accept his own mistakes

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    #1807
    Quote Originally Posted by Junesp111 View Post
    Pwede mag cause ng sensor failure yung humidity which is very high dito sa Pilipinas.
    That statement is too presumptuous bro.

    Have you worked before with automotive grade sensors? Do you have a fair understanding on how they have been qualified and how the production quality is monitored, specially since this piece of electronic component is mission-critical?

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    #1808
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    That statement is too presumptuous bro.

    Have you worked before with automotive grade sensors? Do you have a fair understanding on how they have been qualified and how the production quality is monitored, specially since this piece of electronic component is mission-critical?
    No, but I work as a PLC programmer Oil & Gas, power generation application.

    Dito nga nag fail din yung sensor kahit na multi billion yung investments sa Oil & Gas and Power generation.

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    #1809
    Quote Originally Posted by Junesp111 View Post
    Yung pag apply mo ng break pina process din yan ng ECU dahil may ABS (Anti-lock braking system) yung vehicle. See link for ABS.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system

    Now kung yung engine mo is in full throttle and being sense by ECU, yung ECU will not apply a full break but it will apply slowly the break base on the calculation of ECU to apply the ABS.
    Your statement is flawed.. calculation of the ECU is solely based on the rotational speed of the wheels, ie, sensed by abs sensors, 4 of them, thus called 4-channel ABS. The amount of brake force is not ECU dependent but hydraulics dependent. In a vehicle not equipped with ABS, the brake locks the wheels if you stomp on the brake hard and sudden. ABS mitigates the locking of the wheels by summoning the ABS hydraulic circuitry to give pulsating force to individual brakes, depending on the rotational speed of the wheel, hence the "tak" "tak" sound you hear when ABS activates, thus no wheel locking.

    Now, to contest your claim na hindi mag aaply fully ang brake pag full throttle ka, try this experiment... try driving on a wet road, say 60kph, then shift to neutral..so car is coasting,.. stomp on the accelerator hard to WOT...then brake hard...ABS activates.

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    #1810
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Wow so any electronic or mechanical issue is ruled out.

    Brilliant.
    Not really bro.

    But these types of failures should have been relatively more straightforward with these components. And the supplier would have been pressured (President/CEO level) to rectify the issue immediately, as it is the practice than when such is identified and it could be fatal, the plant is shut down. There will be fireworks all over...

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