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    #1331
    Quote Originally Posted by timo07 View Post
    Have a colleague who drives an AT Montero. Surprisingly, she is not aware of this issue. Because of her dedication to her work, she probably does not have time to watch the news[emoji15]. She said that she cannot change from P to D unless she is depressing the brake. Similar to my Toyota, this appears to be a safety feature that should prevent the theory of human mistake in some of these SUA cases. There's probably some truth to some of the cases. Also, during her last PM, she had a sticker/reminder from the Casa to "always depress the brake when changing from P to D" or something like that. I will confirm exactly what was written in the sticker.
    Early montero nga kasi wala yang safety feature na yan.2012 na nga nalagay as per monseratto. Ask mo officemate mo kung ano year model just to confirm.

    Tingin ko ito talaga problem eh.

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    #1332
    Napansin ko sa CCTV footage ng ABS CBN kanina parang di naman nag brake yung driver. Parang di umilaw brake light.
    Pero kataka taka bakit sa Pinas lang merong ganyan na case

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    #1333
    Quote Originally Posted by jaggerx3 View Post
    Napansin ko sa CCTV footage ng ABS CBN kanina parang di naman nag brake yung driver. Parang di umilaw brake light.
    Pero kataka taka bakit sa Pinas lang merong ganyan na case
    Hindi naman iilaw ang brake light, pag nag accelerate

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    #1334
    Quote Originally Posted by petixs View Post
    Yoko lang magsalita pero me frst hand experience kami sa "Kabayad" moves nyan.
    Heard of such rumors. Careful bro, mahirap yang issue na yan.

    Alvin and Doris and Ted and the others are not letting up on the issue. Does that mean, they are also involved in such "shenanigans."

    OT lang, but I'm happy their not letting up on the tanim bala issue which Pinoy is branding as being sensationalized. Wala na cgurong "sensation" ang presidente natin.

    BTT. Sorry po...

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    #1335
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Early montero nga kasi wala yang safety feature na yan.2012 na nga nalagay as per monseratto. Ask mo officemate mo kung ano year model just to confirm.

    Tingin ko ito talaga problem eh.

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    Oh Okay... My colleague got her Monty late last year..

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    #1336
    Quote Originally Posted by jaggerx3 View Post
    Napansin ko sa CCTV footage ng ABS CBN kanina parang di naman nag brake yung driver. Parang di umilaw brake light.
    Pero kataka taka bakit sa Pinas lang merong ganyan na case
    Hehehe. Hindi ka naintindihan ni OB kay ganyan sagot niya sa post mo. LOL

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    #1337
    grabe din naman yung sa nangyari sa toyota last year in the states. they were made to pay a whooping1.2B USD for sudden accelaration related accidents. In other words, this isn't driver error alone--

    Toyota to Pay $1.2B for Hiding Deadly ‘Unintended Acceleration’
    By BRIAN ROSS JOSEPH RHEEANGELA M. HILLMEGAN CHUCHMACH AARON KATERSKY
    March 19, 2014

    Car manufacturer Toyota has agreed to pay a staggering $1.2 billion to avoid prosecution for covering up severe safety problems with “unintended acceleration,” according to court documents, and continuing to make cars with parts the FBI said Toyota “knew were deadly.”

    A deferred prosecution agreement, filed today, forced Toyota to “admit” that it “misled U.S. consumers by concealing and making deceptive statements about two safety related issues affecting its vehicles, each of which caused a type of unintended acceleration.”


    Toyota “put sales over safety and profit over principle,” according to FBI Assistant Director George Venizelos.

    “The disregard Toyota had for the safety of the public is outrageous,” Venizelos said. “Not only did Toyota fail to recall cars with problem parts, they continued to manufacture new cars with the same parts they already knew were deadly. When media reports arose of Toyota hiding defects, they emphatically denied what they knew was true, assuring consumers that their cars were safe and reliable… More than speeding cars or a major fine, the ultimate tragedy has been the unwitting consumers who died behind the wheel of Toyota vehicles.”

    ABC News first reported the potential dangers of unintended acceleration in an investigation broadcast in November 2009. The report said hundreds of Toyota customers were in “rebellion” after a series of accidents were apparently caused by the unintended acceleration. Two months before, Highway Patrolman Mark Saylor and three members of his family had been killed after the accelerator in his Lexus had become stuck on an incompatible floor mat. Saylor was able to call 911 while his car was speeding over 100 miles per hour and explain his harrowing ordeal right up until the crash that ended his life.

    EXCLUSIVE INVESTIGATION: Runaway Toyotas

    At the time of the first ABC News report, Toyota attempted to assure its drivers that the incidents of sudden acceleration without warning were solely caused by floor mats becoming stuck on the gas pedals or driver error. But already other customers were complaining of similar problems with sudden acceleration, but some had nothing to do with the floor mats and they maintained they weren’t to blame either.

    ABC News published dozens of reports in the following months as Toyota said it investigated and announced massive recalls to address the accelerators being stuck under floor mats – repeatedly assuring drivers that the problem had been taken care of. But today Toyota admitted that the recalls did not cover all the cars they knew were in danger and said that they also concealed another cause of sudden acceleration they had found during their investigations – “sticky” pedals, which refers to the accelerator getting stuck partially depressed.

    In December 2009, the court records showed the company responded to “media accusations that it was continuing to hide defects in its vehicles” by publishing a statement on Toyota’s website saying the company “has absolutely not minimized public awareness of any defect or issue with respect to its vehicles [and] [a]ny suggestion to the contrary is wrong and borders on irresponsibility.”

    Toyota only announced the issue with the “sticky” pedals, along with another massive recall, just minutes before an ABC News report on “World News” in January 2010 told the story of one driver whose Toyota Avalon took off suddenly on the highway.

    The driver, Kevin Haggerty, credited ABC News with saving his life because he had seen a previous report that described what to do in the event of sudden acceleration. By shifting back into neutral, and back into drive when necessary, Haggerty was able to prod his broken vehicle to the dealership, where he said employees there saw that his problem with unintended acceleration firsthand had nothing to do with his floor mat.

    However, Haggerty maintained that his sudden acceleration problem was not caused by a sticky pedal either. Regardless, today court documents showed Toyota knew about the sticky pedal problem in other Toyota models months before the recall and decided not to disclose it to regulators or the public.

    For other drivers, it was already too late. In addition to deaths like the Saylors linked to unintended acceleration, a Minnesota man was serving an eight-year prison sentence for vehicular manslaughter when evidence emerged suggesting he could have been a victim of Toyota’s acceleration problem. After serving two years in prison, Koua Fong Lee was released and charges against him were dropped in 2010.

    Earlier that year, an unidentified Toyota employee appeared to realize the dangerous game the company was playing.

    “Idiots! Someone will go to jail if lies are repeatedly told. I cannot support this,” the unidentified employee said after a meeting between Toyota and regulators in January 2010, according to court documents.

    Instead of jail, the company is now on the hook for the massive $1.2 billion fine, which U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said was the largest penalty of its kind for an auto manufacturer. The money is due by March 25.

    “Toyota confronted this public safety emergency as if it was a public relations problem,” Holder said.

    A senior Justice official added that Toyota made "blatant misrepresentations" in what he called a classic case of corporate culture that favored the seemingly easy way out instead of paying the cost and doing the right thing.

    "The cover up is always going to be worse than the original sin," the official said.

    In a statement posted on its website, Toyota said that at the time of the recalls the company “took full responsibility for any concerns our actions may have caused customers, and we rededicated ourselves to earning their trust.”

    “In the more than four years since these recalls, we have gone back to basics at Toyota to put our customers first,” said Christopher Reynolds, chief legal officer of Toyota Motor North America. “We have made fundamental changes across our global operations to become a more responsive company – listening better to our customers’ needs and proactively taking action to serve them.”

    “Entering this agreement, while difficult, is a major step toward putting this unfortunate chapter behind us. We remain extremely grateful to our customers who have continued to stand by Toyota. Moving forward, they can be confident that we continue to take our responsibilities to them seriously,” Reynolds said.

    BTT

    if it could happen to toyota, it could happen to mitsubishi too.

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    #1338
    my lips are sealed....

    Nice point, if you didnt see the brake lights.... then he didnt brake/try to brake, which he was saying in the interviews....

    BTW, is it me or I keep popping Cherifer commercials, medyo ...wala lang...

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    my lips are sealed....

    Nice point, if you didnt see the brake lights.... then he didnt brake/try to brake, which he was saying in the interviews....

    BTW, is it me or I keep popping Cherifer commercials, medyo ...wala lang...

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    #1339
    Toyota knew there was a problem with the sticky accelerator even before the news of SUA in the states came out. It first came out in Europe. And did not reveal/hid it. This is what they were penalized by the feds. Also they were sued by some owners when the resale value of toyota cars dropped....

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    #1340
    Just to add in this discussion, natandaan nyo yung namatay na ateneo grade schooler na nasagasaan? I think the driver mistook the accelerator pedal as the brake pedal. JDM Hiace na A/T yung sasakyan. Meron din incident na Mitsubishi Galant na A/T na nalaglag sa greenhills parking lot a few years back. I think the driver had a heart attack.

Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]