audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[jhnkvn]

Mga sir tanong ko lang ano mas maganda Pioneer X1550 o Kenwood 4031 para sa Civic FD?

Whatever suits your needs.

[Francisism]

Same performance lang po ba sila 2? Kung ano lang talaga mas gusto ko physically na lang maging difference?

[jhnkvn]

Same performance lang po ba sila 2? Kung ano lang talaga mas gusto ko physically na lang maging difference?

Define performance. A head unit isn't like a car where you can measure performance objectively, even if you can, you can't hear the difference between the two. You simply choose head units based on your needs. Do you need X pre-outs? Do you prefer parametric over graphic? (okay, in case you can't understand these two terms.. okay lang yan, just get the Pioneer because graphic is way easier) Do you need iPod control? (both of them has anyway)

Sorry kung konting grouchy, but the fact is that these questions are all over the internet. Head unit manufacturers such as Pioneer simply rebrands and renames their products over and over and over again. Maybe a few tweaks here and there but when it comes down to it, it's the same. It's like buying last year's model except that this year model has USB capability.. or that it has a better screen resolution.. or that maybe they changed the chassis color from silver to bronze.

[Richard Sarino]

Okay. Im okay with that. Medyo limited kasi ang budget. Pero wala naman bad feedback sa david street sound?

Final set is:

Alpine HU
Domination Seps
Domination Subs
Domination Amp
Audiomax wiring, gauge 4
Sealed enclosure
E46 HU panel
Installation and Tuning

Would that be okay as a minor upgrade to ny sound system na? Thanks!

And how can i do "active" tuning? Thx!

[jhnkvn]

Okay. Im okay with that. Medyo limited kasi ang budget. Pero wala naman bad feedback sa david street sound?

Final set is:

Alpine HU
Domination Seps
Domination Subs
Domination Amp
Audiomax wiring, gauge 4
Sealed enclosure
E46 HU panel
Installation and Tuning

Would that be okay as a minor upgrade to ny sound system na? Thanks!

And how can i do "active" tuning? Thx!

Yes that'll be okay. The important thing here is to first cover the entire frequency range, this means a subwoofer is almost always quite important to have.

As for "active" tuning, well... there's actually no such thing. Active and passive are simply crossover terms. Active for those whose crossovers (high pass filter, low pass filter, bandpass, etc.) you can actively change. This is usually in the feature list of "tuner" head units such as Alpine's CDA-9887 or Pioneer P99RS. Passive on the otherhand means you have a passive crossover (like what is bundled with most separates) to filter the sound.

[[archie]]

All DIY source out of parts and install. Granting that I won't be joining any sound competition, nor I want to be heard two blocks away, here's my super budget meal setup:

Fronts: Targa X652C seps
Back: Stock Clarion coax
HU: Generic with USB/Aux/SD/RCA output
Amp: V12 NV-10-A-480
Sub: 12" Directed Xtreme 400W in a sealed box

Got the amp bnew and the sub+box slightly used for 3.5k. The Targa seps is 1.8k. Install man-hours probably on 8-12, totally worth it. Hardest part was routing the cables, from the battery to the firewall, and under the carpet from the amp to the sub at the back. The Targas aren't wired to the amp yet, have to find longer wires to route from the doors, but the HU handles them pretty well.

Sorry for the crap pic

nice! I like doing diy also. at least you know where everything is. recently done sq of my old ride, could not be happier yung na tapos. pictures of the finished product sir.

[ParticleX]

nice! I like doing diy also. at least you know where everything is. recently done sq of my old ride, could not be happier yung na tapos. pictures of the finished product sir.

Actually it was my first install... courtesy of Youtube For some pics, ahhh you need to do some imagination Don't like to post it since wires aren't neatly tucked in yet (still have to replace the wires from amp to sub with a 'proper' guage 10), also the seps aren't wired to the amp atm.

I like my setup more than my friend's (he has a Sony Xplod in a ported box and a Clarion 2DIN HU), it doesn't get low that much but it isn't muddy and I can clearly hear the beats music selection must've been a factor IMO

[[archie]]

Actually it was my first install... courtesy of Youtube For some pics, ahhh you need to do some imagination Don't like to post it since wires aren't neatly tucked in yet (still have to replace the wires from amp to sub with a 'proper' guage 10), also the seps aren't wired to the amp atm.

I like my setup more than my friend's (he has a Sony Xplod in a ported box and a Clarion 2DIN HU), it doesn't get low that much but it isn't muddy and I can clearly hear the beats music selection must've been a factor IMO

ahh... still in the process. ported box won't give pretty accurate throws unlike the sealed box can. ok yan sir, unti unti lang para busy sa idle time. Good luck on your project sir.

dapat hindi ko lalagyan yung car ko ng setup until may nakita ako sa sulit that sells on of my favorite amp kaya ayun na. just finished tuning it last night... ubos gas ko but worth it.

[jhnkvn]

ahh... still in the process. ported box won't give pretty accurate throws unlike the sealed box can.

It's just harder to do so. But the statement is false.

A bigger subwoofer doesn't move any "slower" than a smaller subwoofer. Reproducing 30hz from a 15" driver with a 12" is the same.. it's simply the amount of back and forth motions you need to reproduce the frequency. 30 hertz is 30 hertz.

The reason why it's "inaccurate" for some is because they fail to tame the peaks of a ported box at its tuned frequency. The reason why many SQ enthusiasts go for sealed is because its 12db/octave drop goes hand-in-hand with the 12dB/octave increase of cabin gain at frequencies >80hz.

But for those who have EQ, get a driver and throw it in a ported box is the way to go. You enjoy the benefits of SPL, lower xmax, lower THD%, better power handling, etc.

[[archie]]

It's just harder to do so. But the statement is false.

A bigger subwoofer doesn't move any "slower" than a smaller subwoofer. Reproducing 30hz from a 15" driver with a 12" is the same.. it's simply the amount of back and forth motions you need to reproduce the frequency. 30 hertz is 30 hertz.

The reason why it's "inaccurate" for some is because they fail to tame the peaks of a ported box at its tuned frequency. The reason why many SQ enthusiasts go for sealed is because its 12db/octave drop goes hand-in-hand with the 12dB/octave increase of cabin gain at frequencies >80hz.

But for those who have EQ, get a driver and throw it in a ported box is the way to go. You enjoy the benefits of SPL, lower xmax, lower THD%, better power handling, etc.

sabi mo eh!