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    #3061
    Quote Originally Posted by Ammiel Barlis View Post
    Doc Mobil Delvac MX has a high TBN of 12 and only around 210 pesos per liter in one of the distributors here in Pampanga. According to its MSDS it has 2500 ppm ZInc
    https://www.alexisoil.com/sites/defa...5w-40-msds.pdf
    Since my gas engine car does not have a cat con its not going to be a problem if i use it, but is this oil good fo 10,000 OCI on a 2012 montero sport of course with a bd28 filter partnered with it (my fathers car).

    Also why is the more expensive (by 2-3x) Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 fully synthetic oil have a lower TBN of 10.7?
    Percentage does not equal ppm. No oil has 2500ppm ZDDP unless it's break in oil which is only run for a very short time and then drained. You would start to see wear in your engine with that high of zinc. Every company has there own math but I don't know what theirs is.

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    #3062
    Doc thanks for clearing that out. How about for my other question regarding Mobil 1 turbo diesel truck fully synthetic having lower TBN than delvac mx but 3x more expensive.

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    #3063
    Quote Originally Posted by Ammiel Barlis View Post
    Doc thanks for clearing that out. How about for my other question regarding Mobil 1 turbo diesel truck fully synthetic having lower TBN than delvac mx but 3x more expensive.
    zinc for Mobil delvac MX based on UOA (comparable with Mobil super 1300 in the US) is around 1700ppm. Not relly good for gas engines with catcon.

    Mobil 1 TDT hs lower TBN because of its CJ-4 rating which means it is for diesel engines with better diesel fuel. So they dont need much TBN. But it is 2x expensive since it is synthetic and it is more expensive to produce and there are a lot of other additives. For a gas engine with a catcon, the Mobil 1 TDT is such an excellent oil. Been using it even in a 4-stroke motorcycle and after 5,000kms oil is just about the same when you first post it. Proof of its being a synthetic making it more durable even in high temp, high-revving engines.

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    #3064
    Ry_Tower I appreciate the info

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    #3065
    Delo Gold Ultra pala dapat... aisht

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    #3066
    Doc what is the safe OCI for a 2012 Montero Sport 10K mileage, using Mobil Delvac MX and Bosch OM 036 filter? There is currently no supply of bd28 at Volmax so the bosch filter is the only other choice better than Vic and Mitsu Oem filter. A very noticeable difference between bosch vs oem oil filter, oil warning light for bosch goes off simultaneously when engine starts; for oem mitsu filter oil warning light goes off 1 to 2 seconds after engine has started.

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    #3067
    Quote Originally Posted by Ammiel Barlis View Post
    Doc what is the safe OCI for a 2012 Montero Sport 10K mileage, using Mobil Delvac MX and Bosch OM 036 filter? There is currently no supply of bd28 at Volmax so the bosch filter is the only other choice better than Vic and Mitsu Oem filter. A very noticeable difference between bosch vs oem oil filter, oil warning light for bosch goes off simultaneously when engine starts; for oem mitsu filter oil warning light goes off 1 to 2 seconds after engine has started.
    The Bosch will be fine for 10k, It's also has a fairly large filter surface it is not as efficient as the BD28 but it is larger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammiel Barlis View Post
    Doc what is the safe OCI for a 2012 Montero Sport 10K mileage, using Mobil Delvac MX and Bosch OM 036 filter? There is currently no supply of bd28 at Volmax so the bosch filter is the only other choice better than Vic and Mitsu Oem filter. A very noticeable difference between bosch vs oem oil filter, oil warning light for bosch goes off simultaneously when engine starts; for oem mitsu filter oil warning light goes off 1 to 2 seconds after engine has started.
    The Bosch will be fine for 10k, It's also has a fairly large filter surface it is not as efficient as the BD28 but it is larger.

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    #3068
    any comment mga sir about this oil from Caterpillar.Its CAT DEO 15w-40

    Typical Characteristics*
    SAE Viscosity Grade 15W-40 10W-30
    API Service Classification
    Diesel CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CI-4, CH-4,
    CH-4, CG-4,CF-4/CF CG-4, CF-4/CF
    Gasoline SL SL
    OEM Performance Level:
    Caterpillar ECF-1 ECF-1
    Volvo VDS-3 VDS-2
    DDC 93K214
    Cummins CES 20071/76/78 CES 20071/76
    Mack EO-NPP ’03, EO-M Plus EO-M Plus
    Flash Point, °C (ASTM D92) 224 227
    Pour Point, °C (ASTM D97) -30 -33
    Viscosity
    cSt * 40°C (ASTM D445) 120.5 76
    cSt * 100°C (ASTM D445) 15.5 11.5
    Viscosity Index (ASTM D2270) 135 145
    Sulfated Ash, % wt. (ASTM D874) 1.3 1.3
    TBN (ASTM D2896) 11.3 11.3
    Zinc, % wt. (ASTM D4951) 0.146 0.146
    Gravity * 16°C
    API (ASTM D287) 29.3 31.8
    Specific 0.880 0.867

    http://parts.cat.com/cda/files/30561...EHJ0059-02.pdf

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    #3069
    sir Dalawa ba ang oil filter ng isuzu 4bc2? anong pwede na Fleetguard or Baldwin for this sir?TIA

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    #3070
    Doc if you where choose between caltex delo 400 and Top1 SDO, which one would you buy assuming they have the same Price and used with a baldwin BD28 filter?

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