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    #3851
    Quote Originally Posted by willsmith View Post
    P39.20! Ouch. Diesel, P44; unleaded P55 *cleanfuel quirino.

    Para di ot. Ever since, tiger lpg(maceda cor. Blumentritt) ako refill as it is closer to my place. First time ko sa cleanfuel quirino ave. With no tuning yet done, napansin ko nag iba ang accelleration. Gumanda ang hatak, even sa incline. I readily felt the difference, its at par or even better than gas!

    Previously sa tiger lpg. Ito issues;-rough ang idling, minsan namamatay especially pag umaga or pag ka start lang, hirap na hirap sa incline at overtake. Marami na comment na parang di daw patas pumps ng tiger. I think, patas ang pump nila kasi mahirap madaya ang per liter lalo sa mga taxi na may mga manual dials na wala ginawa kundi pitik pitikin habang nagkakarga.hehe. Pero nagkakaiba siguro sa formulation. Maybe cleanfuel has precise octane contents as advertised. Which translates to better mileage per liter. Tingin niyo mga masters?
    Dati may issue ako sa CleanFuel being oily, but since last year maganda na ang LPG ng CleanFuel Naka 3000+ Points na nga ako eh malapit ko na maredeem yung pinakamataas nilang reward either yung Microwave of LCD TV. Nagiba na ng supplier ang CleaFuel dahil sa complaint in previous years of oily LPG, this according to CleanFuel Commonwealth.

    Pero isa pang taas ng LPG, balik pure gasoline na ulit ako, ang palagi kong Fuel cost saving reference is LPG Price x 1.2 less or equal Gasoline Price.

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    #3852
    Quote Originally Posted by willsmith View Post
    I thought protected ng government ang price ng lpg from other consumer products dahil basic commodity at ginagamit ng ordinary pinoys. Parang hindi na din, nakikisabay narin sa big3. Nangunguna pa nga sa rate of increase, halos pumarehas na sa diesel. Wala nadin halos incentive to be 'greener' on lpg. Parang inutil naman yata ang gobyerno sa mga hinaing ng mga nakararaming 'boss'. Just my observation.

    ???


    govt never controlled the price of LPG

    if govt controlled the pric eof LPG nobody would sell LPG

    if govt set a price for LPG and the cost (puhunan) of LPG is near, equal, or above the govt set price di nalang sila magbebenta ng LPG (no LPG to buy is worse than having expensive LPG)

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    #3853
    Just acquired an A33 Cefiro with 40L LPG tank. Did all the fluid changes but I noticed it consumes a lot of LPG. Approx 4km/l. What needs to be checked?

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    #3854
    Quote Originally Posted by non-vtec View Post
    Just acquired an A33 Cefiro with 40L LPG tank. Did all the fluid changes but I noticed it consumes a lot of LPG. Approx 4km/l. What needs to be checked?
    Maybe it's just the large engine (3.0L V6)? You can have the LPG system checked with it's installer. IF the air/fuel setting is on the rich side it could explain your car's gas guzzling ways.

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    #3855
    Quote Originally Posted by non-vtec View Post
    Just acquired an A33 Cefiro with 40L LPG tank. Did all the fluid changes but I noticed it consumes a lot of LPG. Approx 4km/l. What needs to be checked?
    BTW, what is your normal daily route from home to work, etc? How heavy is the traffic?

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    #3856
    Quote Originally Posted by non-vtec View Post
    Just acquired an A33 Cefiro with 40L LPG tank. Did all the fluid changes but I noticed it consumes a lot of LPG. Approx 4km/l. What needs to be checked?
    Medyo maliit yung tank niya for a V6 engine. Most biggies use a 65 (or 70/80L?) tank.

    I'd suggest a complete tune up of the kit first. The 2.0 V6 Cefiro does around 6km/L+ at the average in Metro Manila traffic before.

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    #3857
    Sampaloc area to Roxas Blvd. Mostly moderate traffic. Just had the MAF, TB and plugs checked. They're all ok.

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    #3858
    Try getting some highway driving as well to observe your FC. The case with my Altis, i average between 9.5 to 10.5km/L in city driving, the same as my gasoline figures however in highway driving, i'd get around 10.5 to 11.5km/L with LPG as against 13km/L to 16km/L with gasoline. When Xoom checked out my tuning, he saw that i was basically stoich in the low rpm range and running rich at the high rpm range so we would have to work on tuning that.

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    #3859
    Thanks. BTW I insisted to spray some contact cleaner on the MAF and Carb Cleaner on the T/B. There was a slight improvement in engine response. Hopefully an improvement in FC. But I'll definitely need to have the LPG system tuned. Its an SGI kit BTW.

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    #3860
    Update: Found out that the car has no thermostat installed. It takes a while for the engine to warm up. Will install a thermostat today...

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