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    #1451
    Quote Originally Posted by millsguevarra View Post
    Ako sir pag nag papagas ako half tank lang. Para hindi mabigat kotse, in turn mas mataas ang fuel economy.

    Kumabaga 40 liters capacity ng fuel tank ko. At most 20 liters lang karga ko. Bigat din kasi additional 20 liters sir. Imagine mo may sakay ka na 20 pcs 1 liter coke. hehe.
    rm molivar is right about the space for evaporation. and ur tank is more prone to corrosion kasi yun moisture always at the top. mostly ang metal ng inner tank ay raw steel, meaning no anti rust. your only anti rust protection is the fuel itself since it contains oil and additives againts rust.

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    #1452
    Used to work for a company that sells a required equipment for all gas stations. We have independent stations requiring frequent maintenance compared to standardized big 3 stations (shell,petron, caltex).

    On our analysis, they (not all) were using substandard gas sometimes mixing un-authorized additives which easts up the metal/plastic of the equipment. Example of these additives is a substance to make the unleaded smell and colored like a premium (then sold as premium). These will only work for a week or two and have to be renewed.

    after learning this, I stopped fueling from independents. they maybe cheaper by 0.5 to 1 peso but not worth the risk for my car.

    Quote Originally Posted by boybit View Post
    mahal yun blaze yun unioil 52 .5 at quantum naman 53.5 per liter, yun quantum is highest gas fuel 95 octane nila mas mura pa sa unleaded ng shell about 50 cents.

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    #1453
    Quote Originally Posted by rrm4405 View Post
    i read in an internationa hyundai forum that this could be undercoating that managed to be applied continuously up to the doors sills. to my mind, this never should have reached and appeared on the side face of the car. one car on display had about an inch wide showing this, while another had about a centimeter wide -- so hindi standard. an undercoat should remain under the car right? i think hyundai just painted over it, and the result is quite unsightly.
    Kasi dito na sa Pilipinas nilalagyan ng undercoat.

    Actually sa ibang units may daya yan, yung loob ng ibang fender wala na kasi it's covered by plastic so hindi rin kita kung nilagyan ba talaga or wala. Which is dapat meron undercoat diba, sir.

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    #1454
    Quote Originally Posted by maxhedrum View Post
    I think sir modern cars have evaporative emission control system to siphon off these gases for re-use. So not really applicable for your elantra or my accent.

    The suggestion to driver the car half tank full kinda makes sense though.
    yes it does, but more space for fuel to linger means more evaporation, and the fuel reservoir have a breather and blow off valves if the pressure exceeds its limit. in this valves or breather is where your wasted gas will flow. and once ur fuel evaporated it will not condense again under normal circumstances. half tank is only advisable when going uphill. 20 litters of gas is not significant . its less than the weight of one passenger. it may be significant to those car that is under power. but for 1.6 and 1.8 . i think its not unless you race. and it is more significant to protect your tank against corrosion. and our fuel here are not so clean or certified that it is water free

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    #1455
    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Kasi dito na sa Pilipinas nilalagyan ng undercoat.

    Actually sa ibang units may daya yan, yung loob ng ibang fender wala na kasi it's covered by plastic so hindi rin kita kung nilagyan ba talaga or wala. Which is dapat meron undercoat diba, sir.
    yes thats why when i bought new cars strip kaagad on the next day. i myself under coat it. complete naman ako sa gamit to make that possible. and pati yun loob ng door pina cocoat ko para hinde masyadong tunog lata pag sarado ng pinto

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    #1456
    Quote Originally Posted by rmolivar View Post
    me caveat din sir kung hindi puno ang fuel tank kasi mas malaki ang space para mag-evaporate ang gas, which is very volatile. in essence, you're losing gas even though you're not using your car. mas malaki pa lalo ang effect nito pag nakabilad ang kotse mo sa initan.

    take note din to deduct yung additional weight ng glass bottle ng 1 liter coke when you imagine the 20 pcs, which might also be substantial.
    for me, it makes more sense to fill my tank kasi it reduces the number of trips i have to make to the gas station. also, totoo na pag bukas ka ng bukas ng gas cap, sisingawan ka lang ng evap gas. also, a full tank does not necessarily make you use up more gas, kasi while it is true that you step on the gas more to push a heavier load, so do you need not to step on the pedal longer to carry your car to a stop. u count on momentum to do that.

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    #1457
    Quote Originally Posted by maxhedrum View Post
    Used to work for a company that sells a required equipment for all gas stations. We have independent stations requiring frequent maintenance compared to standardized big 3 stations (shell,petron, caltex).

    On our analysis, they (not all) were using substandard gas sometimes mixing un-authorized additives which easts up the metal/plastic of the equipment. Example of these additives is a substance to make the unleaded smell and colored like a premium (then sold as premium). These will only work for a week or two and have to be renewed.

    after learning this, I stopped fueling from independents. they maybe cheaper by 0.5 to 1 peso but not worth the risk for my car.
    actualy is not about the cost of the gas but e10 yun problem, yun mga old car at motorcycle ng mga ahente and messenger ko nasisira yun fuel line nila at tumotope yun car. and these damage not only the fuel consumption but also the engine and its component. and besides the big 3 is not that 100 percent reliable. it always depends on the station itself, ihave 2 dealers ng gas station ng shell nakilala ko. they do but not always get their supply to some of the independent dealers when the supply is low and over price. and i have also a friend who is independent dealers get their supply from caltex.

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    #1458
    Quote Originally Posted by eggman View Post
    Nasa 868K ang price ng Elantra 1.6 Liter 6 speed A/T yata..
    I think I already posted the details about the 1.6 A/T several times..

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    #1459
    update sa color ng 1.6 a/T tomato red, display unit at gateway mall, dealer q. ave

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    #1460
    Quote Originally Posted by boybit View Post
    update sa color ng 1.6 a/T tomato red, display unit at gateway mall, dealer q. ave
    kita ko nga nung wednesday. additional color sa 1.6 A/T, wala parin sa 1.8 A/T? kahit yung dark blue lang.

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