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    #1571
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Eto ang sagot:



    If hindi lang nagpupumilit si Ukraine sumali ng NATO, e di walang war.

    Tapos etong si Zelensky, nanghamon ng war, lahat ng world leaders gusto nya kumampi sa kanya, if not masama sila? Pati mga businesses gusto nya idamay. Pero hindi nagpa uto sa kanya si Nestle.
    Independent country ba ang Ukraine or not? Anong pakialam ni Putin kung ano gusto nila gawin? Eh di baligtarin natin, pakialaman din ng Ukraine kung ano gusto gawin ng Russia.

    Second largest country ba sila after Russia? So alam na kung ano talaga dahilan ni Putin. Gusto niya expand territory niya.
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    #1572
    Bumabalik nanaman sa Western propaganda, paikot ikot lang.

    If you agree na tama ginawa ng Russia. Then sabihin ninyo you're with Russia and ginagawa nila don't deflect to western nanaman.

    State nibyo na agree kayo sa Russia.

    Gawa na lang kasi ng bagong thread about Syria, Israel and palenstine.

    Para hinde paulit ulit yun Western bias dito.


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    Last edited by shadow; March 22nd, 2022 at 11:49 AM.

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    #1573
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Bottomline, mali ba Russia or hindi? hehehe

    Ferris wheel again.
    you're pushed into a corner and you fight back

    tama o mali?

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    #1574
    Yun nga ini.isip ko… bakit gagamitin yung iba to justify own action… gusto mo invade yung lugar kasi gusto mo makuha hindi dahil, nag invade nga si nato sa middle east, si israel sa palentine… gagawin ko rin ito sa ukraine…

    Pambihirang reason yan, tinira nga ni juan si fe ng pilitan, titirahin ko din si magda sa pilitan…


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    #1575
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post





    this is what western companies face if they don't leave russia

    cancel culture

    Which is good… tama nga lang…


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    #1576
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Which is good… tama nga lang…


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    did you smash a bottle of vodka yet?

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    #1577
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Yun nga ini.isip ko… bakit gagamitin yung iba to justify own action… gusto mo invade yung lugar kasi gusto mo makuha hindi dahil, nag invade nga si nato sa middle east, si israel sa palentine… gagawin ko rin ito sa ukraine…

    Pambihirang reason yan, tinira nga ni juan si fe ng pilitan, titirahin ko din si magda sa pilitan…


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    di nagets

    point ko double standard ang West

    ano pagkaiba ng pananakop ng israel sa palestine sa pananakop ng russia sa ukraine?

    pareho pananakop yan

    bakit sa mata ng West ung ginawa ng israel ok lang pero ung ginawa ng russia hinde?

    dahil pag kakampi nila ang gumawa ok lang

    pero pag kaaway nila ang gumawa hinde

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    #1578
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Yun nga ini.isip ko… bakit gagamitin yung iba to justify own action… gusto mo invade yung lugar kasi gusto mo makuha hindi dahil, nag invade nga si nato sa middle east, si israel sa palentine… gagawin ko rin ito sa ukraine…

    Pambihirang reason yan, tinira nga ni juan si fe ng pilitan, titirahin ko din si magda sa pilitan…


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    kunwari best friend mo nag land grab ng lupa ng kapitbahay... pikit mata ka nalang diba?

    pero pag isang kagalit mo nag land grab ng lupa ng ibang tao...

    well?

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    #1579
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    you're pushed into a corner and you fight back

    tama o mali?
    Wrog premise ka kasi imho. Are they really pushed in a corner? NO imho. Why wage war then?

    Moreover, Russia has not yet maximized diplomacy imho. They shoud have used their oil and gas sales as leverage to NATO countries that buys form them. They should have made the sanctions instead of going to war.

    You keep saying kasi na sa tingin ni Putin security concern masyado pagsali ng Ukraine sa NATO. But the evidence points out na hindi naman siya pwede tanggapin kasi may mga countries na ayaw siya isama at unanimoius vote kelangan para masali sa NATO.

    Tsaka ano sabi ng mga sundalong Russian na nahuli, invasion talaga plano. It's a drug pill for Putin because of Crimea and the two pro-russian provinces.

    Yung denazification angle ano masasabi mo? Ayus ba na dahilan hehehe.

    And agin ibalik ko sa isang nakakatawang tanong, kapag nakuha nila Ukraine, yung dalawang katabi nun NATO members na, so dapat atakihin na din kasi MAS MATINDING security issue diba? Meron pa presence ngayon ng US troops. Get's mo naman logic siguro ano kaya patawa reasoning na security issue.
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    #1580
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post





    this is what western companies face if they don't leave russia

    cancel culture

    Switzerland has no affiliation whatsoever. Its companies can make business with any country with no fear of persecution.

    Ay sorry, Dapat makisabay sa US, UK, at NATO. Or baka ma ostracize ka pa.

    Parang Yung mga bully sa school. Ok lang manakit sa iba pero kung barkada nya sinaktan, lahat sa school makisabay.

    Russia is wrong to invade Ukraine. Israel is wrong to deny the Palestinians of their lands. The US and the UK was wrong to invade Iraq with fabricated stories of WMD. NATO was wrong to bomb Serbia for meddling in a civil war.

    Yun nga lang, sa point of view ng US-UK-NATO or Israel justified yung actions nila. Civilians died in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Serbia. Pero mali pa rin. For the US and NATO, Russia cannot bully another country because they are the only bullies. Hehehe


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