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    Good read from Tito Hermoso. I hope someone from DoF will take notice.

    http://www.autoindustriya.com/inside...-industry.html

    I just want to add, there will also be a similarly catastrophic domino effect on related industries like the service (maintenance) and aftermarket industry. Think gas stations, carwashes, suspension shops, paint shops, dub & tire shops, tint, audio & video, etc.

    And the net additional tax collection from the proposed measures, in its current form will also be negative. Which defeats the purpose of this proposed increase in excise tax. Tito's proposed alternatives look much better.

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    Mobility is the name of the game. Even if you have a reliable multiple transport system, you would still need cars. Or you go back to the calendar system or the carabao drawn cart

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    Mas ok kung sa mga kotse lang sila mag tataas ng tax. Pero sana mag baba sila ng tax sa mga truck at utility vehicles. Mag baba din sila sa spare parts ng mga trucks and untility vehicles dahil nakaka tulong ito sa economy.

    Luxury cars at mga SUVs ok lang taasan ng tax pero sana ang mga micro cars maintain nila dahil ito ang normal cars ng middle and lower class.

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    Ako alam nyo naman lover of environment. Kung tax pag uusapan ang dapat heavily tax eh yung the most destructive sa nature. Its the diesel engine. Why?

    - Few years lang itim na usok

    - Tunog lata kaya noise pollution. Payabang-yabang pa crdi eh kalembang pa din.

    - Meron mga bahay na ewan ko bakit gagawa ng garahe sobra sikip tapos pag pinaandar sa umaga diesel papainitin pa eh torture lungs nyo.

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    Agree ako doon sa article walang tax sa prius/leaf/segway mga electric/hybrid car. Tapos sa gasoline ang least tax dapat.

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    Ang mga barubal usually magmaintain ng sasakayan yung meron fleet ng mitsubishi FB, delivery, cargo trucks, bus. Kaya dapat bigyan ng leksyon mga one year impound and taasan penalty mga hundred thousand to millions. Tinitipid langis, pati gulong kalbo na sige byahe, overloading pa tapos hindi check regular brake fluid so resulta disgraysa sa kalsada = lost of human life. Pag walang kaya namatay or nainjured eh areglo lang ng third part liability sa insurance or magyayabang sasagutin na lang daw palibing. Ganun ka cheap ang buhay dahil sa pagiging irresponsible.

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    the reason why diesel is a robust fuel is because diesel engines are thermally efficient.

    there are a number of measures to reduce exhaust particulates by introducing newer catalytic converters, or introducing reducing agents(such as ammonia) into the exhaust mix to render the exhaust harmless.

    heavily taxing CRDI engines is just plain silly. why the hell would you dis-incentivize technology that makes an already efficient power source even more efficient and cleaner???

    you are just making the technology even less accessible to the general public...
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Mga crdi engine dito sa pinas bina-bypass egr. Mga montero club talamak jan pati fortuner owners. Sana magkaroon ng batas na ibawal.

    Its not like sa europe na super strict.

    Sa america pala bakit parang madalang diesel engine jan.

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    I still prefer the fuel tax proposal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    I still prefer the fuel tax proposal...
    Even if 80% of diesel in the country is used for industrial/public transpo use?

    I find the uniform excise tax to be disproportionately anti-poor. A 10% increase in transpo costs plus 5-6% average increase in most goods and services will greatly hurt those who live day to day.

    On the other hand, increasing sticker prices of cars over 1M an additional 20% wouldn't really hurt the lower classes that much. Boohoo I can't afford an Everest anymore. Boohoo.

    Ideally, public transpo should be improved first before crippling private car ownership and corruption should be lessened to maximize our taxes, but that's not bound to happen in the next decade. Meanwhile, income tax reduction is on its way to fruition, and government will have to plug the 50-150B annual deficit (depending on which tax reform version is passed) by increasing taxes on other things.

    Honestly I think the upper classes get way too much leeway. I have never seen any businessman pay proper taxes, while employees have no choice.

    When the 8 richest people in the world are richer than the bottom 3.5 billion, there's really a problem with income inequality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Even if 80% of diesel in the country is used for industrial/public transpo use?

    I find the uniform excise tax to be disproportionately anti-poor. A 10% increase in transpo costs plus 5-6% average increase in most goods and services will greatly hurt those who live day to day.

    On the other hand, increasing sticker prices of cars over 1M an additional 20% wouldn't really hurt the lower classes that much. Boohoo I can't afford an Everest anymore. Boohoo.

    Ideally, public transpo should be improved first before crippling private car ownership and corruption should be lessened to maximize our taxes, but that's not bound to happen in the next decade. Meanwhile, income tax reduction is on its way to fruition, and government will have to plug the 50-150B annual deficit (depending on which tax reform version is passed) by increasing taxes on other things.

    Honestly I think the upper classes get way too much leeway. I have never seen any businessman pay proper taxes, while employees have no choice.

    When the 8 richest people in the world are richer than the bottom 3.5 billion, there's really a problem with income inequality.

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    Public transportation will not get excemption? Traffic congestion is because of higher vehicle volume from private owners.

    If you have a car you pay for the road use via fuel tax.
    Last edited by StockEngine; January 24th, 2017 at 01:50 PM.

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    I'd still say give the money to the people and let them decide how to spend it....😍

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