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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Cognitive dissonance. Even if the economy crashes, the support for our populist government will remain and the supporters will always find a way to deflect the blame elsewhere and justify that the administration was doing the best they could.

    I have DDS folks on my Facebook feed across all income strata, none of the gov'ts recent booboos have swayed them.

    Only those who were in the fence before would be dissuaded - but remember that the govt has an 80% approval rating. That has likely not slumped in the past 2 months. You'd get a dip of maybe 10% max. Then another rise once Duterte says something charming again to the masses.

    So while wishing the economy to crash might give a sense of schadenfraude, it really doesn't reach those that need to be reached and ends up with millions of Filipinos suffering economically as collateral.

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    I respect your opinion bro though I don't agree that you call it cognitive dissonance because I still hold firmly the belief that people can change for the better. It would take harsh realities for some to change though. If we will resign to the fact that we deserve this government then we can expect one of his sycophants to be the next president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    I respect your opinion bro though I don't agree that you call it cognitive dissonance because I still hold firmly the belief that people can change for the better. It would take harsh realities for some to change though. If we will resign to the fact that we deserve this government then we can expect one of his sycophants to be the next president.

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    I was referring to congitive dissonance within his supporters, just to clarify.

    That is, even if they know something is inherently wrong (i.e Sinas mañanita), they will suddenly justify it just because Duterte says it's permissible (because they hold on to their belief that Duterte is infallible more dearly than following the law).

    We don't deserve this government but this is a democracy and the majority are happy with Duterte and see him as a net positive so they will get what they vote for.

    Only a brewing disdain from the masses themselves will crumble support for Duterte and his lackeys. But for sure his replacement will also be another populist (Isko, Marcos, etc).

    That's the kind of politician most Filipinos like. While we might be able to reach and convert a few here and there, most people will only shift political allegiances when it aligns with their internal beliefs and the reality is that people relate more to populists rather than technocrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I was referring to congitive dissonance within his supporters, just to clarify.

    That is, even if they know something is inherently wrong (i.e Sinas mañanita), they will suddenly justify it just because Duterte says it's permissible (because they hold on to their belief that Duterte is infallible more dearly than following the law).

    We don't deserve this government but this is a democracy and the majority are happy with Duterte and see him as a net positive so they will get what they vote for.

    Only a brewing disdain from the masses themselves will crumble support for Duterte and his lackeys. But for sure his replacement will also be another populist (Isko, Marcos, etc).

    That's the kind of politician most Filipinos like. While we might be able to reach and convert a few here and there, most people will only shift political allegiances when it aligns with their internal beliefs and the reality is that people relate more to populists rather than technocrats.

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    Got you. Although my stand would probably be looked upon as CD by others whose views are different from mine.

    Agree that fanaticism is dangerous and social media is dumbing down the masses. We need a radical change though to save this country from the abyss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Got you. Although my stand would probably be looked upon as CD by others whose views are different from mine.

    Agree that fanaticism is dangerous and social media is dumbing down the masses. We need a radical change though to save this country from the abyss.

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    The radical change will only come when masses realize that not all technocrats are corrupt (also that populists are usually worse) and admit within themselves that we need someone who knows what they're doing and is surrounded by people who know what they're doing.

    Unlikely in our lifetimes if I'm being realistic about it. Populism is back in vogue. Not just in the Philippines - you have Trump, Bolsonaro, Johnson, and so on.

    Then again there's hope that we will elect the likes of Arden, Merkel, Trudeau - but the big difference is that these are countries with strong educational systems in place. Hindi bobo ang masa nila.

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