Paniniwala nang Iglesia ni Cristo

[ClaNker]

Sir di po siya umalis sa sda, inalis daw po. May publication po ang international adventisit institute na nagtanan (please correct my word kung mali) sa araw ng sabado. Eh sabadista pa siya noon.

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Taken from lesson24

Q. What is also the cause of separation of Felix Y. Manalo from the Seventh Day Adventists?
A. The cause of separation of Felix Manalo from the Seventh Day Adventists was due to unspecified conduct which was grave enough to warrant investigation and expulsion after he was found guilty. The letter of H.W. Klaser of the Seventh Day Adventists is reproduced below:

"Office of the Treasurer

June 9, 1933

Mr. Salvado Laspinal
331 San Rafael, Sampaloc
Manila, P.I.

Dear Mr. Laspinal:

Please pardon me for this belated reply. I have been out of the city for sometime and have been in a position to answer your letter of May 3. I am sorry to hear that you are having difficulty with Mr. Felix Manalo and his following. The Seventh Day Adventists have a number of books giving an outline or rather going into detail as to what we believe. We believe in the soon coming of our Saviour, together with other teachings that are supported by the Bible. In fact we have no creed. The Bible is our rule and guide. Now, if any church follows this outline certainly it cannot be said that they are apostates.

Mr. Felix Manalo at one time was worker in this denomination but because of his conduct, after investigation, it was found necessary to not only sever his connections from the work but also to disfellowship him from membership in our denomination. I trust that this gives you the information that you desire.

Sincerely yours,

(SGD) H. W. Klaser
HGK:mo"
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Note: This letter was posted by INC Researcher in this forum on May 23, 2003 at 7:08 P.M. INC Researcher says the original is in his possession.

As we can see from these letter evidences, Felix Y. Manalo is a wife beater, an adulterer, a fornicator, and a liar. Why is he a liar? Let's quote the INC's God's Message magazine as to his reasons for leaving the Disciples of Christ (Churches of Christ) and the Seventh Day Adventists:

"From being a Methodist, Brother Felix joined the presbyterian Church and became one of its pastors. Later, he discovered that another Protestant group, the Christian Missionary Alliance also known as the Disciples of Christ practiced the biblical way of baptism - by immersion. He transferred to this group thinking that their beliefs were more scriptural than the previous churches he joined. Still, his thirst for scriptural truth was not fully satisfied by this group. He soon found many contradictions in their beliefs and decided to leave them when they could not answer his questions on doctrines. ..At age 25, he joined the Seventh Day Adventists Church and became one of its most outstanding evangelists..Brother Felix remained with the Adventists until the time that he began to question their observance of the Sabbath during Saturdays. When the Adventist failed to respond to his queries, he resigned as ministe and member in 1913." (God's Message, Jul-Sep 1994,p.11)

This Felix Manalo is caught in his lies. He says he left the Disciples of Christ (Churches of Christ) because they could not answer his questions about doctrines. The truth came out, however, that he was actually expelled by the Disciples of Christ because of cruelty to his wife, adultery, and fornication. And he also lied that he left the Seventh Day Adventists because they could not respond to his query why Sabbath is observed during Saturdays when in fact he was also fired or disfellowshiped because of his conduct. Felix Y. Manalo was an adulterer and fornicator before founding his Iglesia ni Cristo church. And he was a fornicator and an adulterer after founding his Iglesia cult. This false messenger of God of the Iglesia cult is a pathological adulterer and liar.

[ClaNker]

From the same site.

Q. Why was Felix Y. Manalo expelled from his former religion as member of the Churches of Christ (Disciples of Christ)?
A. He was expelled for being a wife beater, an adulterer, and a fornicator. The evidence is the letter dated Oct.14, 1933 of Leslie Wolfe of the Philippine Mission of the Churches of Christ reproduced below:

"Philippine Mission
Churches of Christ
Leslie Wolfe Anne A. Wolfe

Oct.14, 1933

Mr. Salvador Laspinas
1535 Felix Huertas, Int.C.,
Manila

Dear Bro.Laspinas:

I have your letter of Oct.7th. You know I am sick I am not able to give you all the information about Felix Manalo that you desire. He was a student in our mission and I was one of his teachers. We had him employed as an evangelist, paying him a salary. He was minister for the church at Singalong for some time. His wife accused him of cruelty and of adultery. She came to my house and showed the wounds which Felix had made by blows on her back. I called the doctor who is now in Manila to examine her wounds. The church at Singalong had an investigation of Felix. The wife of Felix came and made complaints, but Felix did not come. The church at Singalong voted that Felix was guilty of the charges of his wife. As a consequence we took away the salary thaat we were giving to Felix. The Felix left us.

I do not have further personal knowledge of the life of Felix. There was, however, a Teresa who studied with us. It was proven in court that Felix was the father of her child. Brother Baronia has much typewritten information about Felix Manalo and especially about the Teresa case, which he says he will be glad to furnish to anyone desiring the information.

I hope you will be able to continue your work and that you will be very successful. I am.

Cordially yours,

Leslie Wolfe"
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Note: The original copy of this letter is available in the internet by logging in at www.geocities.com/fym_exposed/file1.htm

Ewan ko na lang sa mga naniwala sa huling sugo.

[Mile2]

Taken from lesson24

Not so genius fabrication of lies

Why is the letter dated 1933 suddenly showed up as if Felix Manalo was still under Leslie Wolfe's religion? Isn't it purely fabricated lies since the INC was already registered in the Philippines since 1914.


It's been a busy days for me during the past days and more ahead, all I can say was THANK YOU tsikoteers for the bashing and jokes It gives us more strength in faith and btw, my locale was fast nearing double in serial numbers this year.

Advance Happy NEW YEAR to all.

[Manilablock]

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[ClaNker]

Not so genius fabrication of lies

Why is the letter dated 1933 suddenly showed up as if Felix Manalo was still under Leslie Wolfe's religion? Isn't it purely fabricated lies since the INC was already registered in the Philippines since 1914.


It's been a busy days for me during the past days and more ahead, all I can say was THANK YOU tsikoteers for the bashing and jokes It gives us more strength in faith and btw, my locale was fast nearing double in serial numbers this year.

Advance Happy NEW YEAR to all.

Pagbigyan kita, sabihin na nating "fabricated" nga yan. Eh yung kasinungalingan ni Manalo na sya ang "huling sugo"?

Sige nga, depensahan mo nga yang "fabrication" ni Manalo.

[testament11]

Tsaka eto pa, hindi ba "noise pollution" na kung matatawag yun ginagawa ng mga kaanib ninyo tuwing may pananalangin kayo? Bakit ko nasabi yan? 6am ng umaga, kung makasigaw pastor ninyo pag nagdadasal dito sa amin eh wagas with matching hagulgol na akala mo kinakatay at yun speaker ninyo ay naka-todo ata. Sorry ah, di naman sa inaano ko kayo pero nakakainis ba. Pwede naman i-tone down ninyo yun speaker ninyo at hindi kayo makaperwisyo sa ibang tao. Hindi lang naman kasi kayo yun tao eh, madaming iba pa dyan.

At yun pa pala, kelangan bang umiyak at sumigaw pag nananalangin? Nadadaan ba sa hagulgol at pagsigaw ang pananalangin? I think no. Iyak pwede pag di na mapigilan yun emotion pero sumisigaw? Naku, parang hindi naman ata. Di naman ata yan ang way para mapakinggan ang iyong gustong sabihin sa Diyos.

Haaay naku INM, yun mga practices ninyo ay talagang kulto ang dating. Tapos kayo kung makakutya sa amin mga Katoliko eh Paganism ang style. Tignan niyo muna bakuran ninyo bago kayo mangpuna sa iba!

At kasama ba sa doktrina ninyo ang manira ng buhay? Tanong lang. Lahat kasi ng na-eencounter kong INM eh life wreckers

[Mile2]

Pagbigyan kita, sabihin na nating "fabricated" nga yan. Eh yung kasinungalingan ni Manalo na sya ang "huling sugo"?

Sige nga, depensahan mo nga yang "fabrication" ni Manalo.

You can read here Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church Of Christ) » The Messenger Of God

Other topics like Our Beliefs / FAQ (Dinuguan, Pasko, Holy Week, Salvation, the true Church etc. --> Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church Of Christ)

I have no time for long debates, moreover this thread is not trimmed for proper debate forum.

[joemarski]

Catholics: Birth of Christ = December 25

INC: Birth of Christ = ? ? ?

Anyway, whoever started celebrating Dec 25 as Christmas Day with a lot of "handa" and gift- givings,
hindi ko rin alam and I guess, it doesn't matter anymore, 'coz for sure patay na siya / sila.

Whatever your religion is, Merry Christmas na lang sa lahat ng madlang- pipol and Happy New Year na rin! :cheer3:

[ClaNker]

Tsaka eto pa, hindi ba "noise pollution" na kung matatawag yun ginagawa ng mga kaanib ninyo tuwing may pananalangin kayo? Bakit ko nasabi yan? 6am ng umaga, kung makasigaw pastor ninyo pag nagdadasal dito sa amin eh wagas with matching hagulgol na akala mo kinakatay at yun speaker ninyo ay naka-todo ata. Sorry ah, di naman sa inaano ko kayo pero nakakainis ba. Pwede naman i-tone down ninyo yun speaker ninyo at hindi kayo makaperwisyo sa ibang tao. Hindi lang naman kasi kayo yun tao eh, madaming iba pa dyan.

At yun pa pala, kelangan bang umiyak at sumigaw pag nananalangin? Nadadaan ba sa hagulgol at pagsigaw ang pananalangin? I think no. Iyak pwede pag di na mapigilan yun emotion pero sumisigaw? Naku, parang hindi naman ata. Di naman ata yan ang way para mapakinggan ang iyong gustong sabihin sa Diyos.

Haaay naku INM, yun mga practices ninyo ay talagang kulto ang dating. Tapos kayo kung makakutya sa amin mga Katoliko eh Paganism ang style. Tignan niyo muna bakuran ninyo bago kayo mangpuna sa iba!

At kasama ba sa doktrina ninyo ang manira ng buhay? Tanong lang. Lahat kasi ng na-eencounter kong INM eh life wreckers

Stick muna tayo sa "fabrication" si Manalo na sya ang "Huling sugo". Kita lang kasi ni Mile2 ang year 1933 "fabrication" na daw agad, di man lang nya binasa na sagot yan sa tanong ni Mr. Salvador Laspiñas.

CA Fabrication.

Accusations of ***ual immorality plagued Felix Manalo through out His life. In a decision by the Court of Appeals, in the case of "The People vs. Rosita Trillanes" published in July 1942, (A court case initiated by Manalo) the Justices gave an extremely unfavorable estimate of Manalo's character stating:

"...Manalo, took advantage of his position as head of the Iglesia ni Cristo, and...employed religion as a cloak to cover his...immoral practices; that he pretended to be the Messias sent by God; and that to persuade his victims, he cited the example of Solomon and his many wives"

Now since all of these are nothing but lies. Let's see how Mile2 can defend Manalo's "fabrication" as the Last Angel/Messenger of "God"

Focus tayo sa fabrication ni Manalo.

[ClaNker]

You can read here Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church Of Christ) » The Messenger Of God

Other topics like Our Beliefs / FAQ (Dinuguan, Pasko, Holy Week, Salvation, the true Church etc. --> Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church Of Christ)

I have no time for long debates, moreover this thread is not trimmed for proper debate forum.

So I will read those and prove that indeed Manalo is the "Last Messenger"? Convenient.