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    #701
    Sir, I totally agree that they deserve the highest honors. They are indeed heroes and gallantly fought their enemies to their last breath. Words cannot describe their heroism. As you said, they are the best of the best, they went in even though they lacked some assets that their western counterparts would have. I am one of many who salute them in their bravery and heroism.

    On another note, the SAF members as seen in the video were already defenseless. They were badly injured or dying. They were in a physical state that they are unable to fight back. This fact qualifies it to murder. Also aggravated by the fact that their equipment, personal belongings, and even stripping them partially, if not totally naked. And considering that this was done not only to one SAF member but many, I would call it �massacre� and not just overkill.

    We may call it massacre, overkill or whatever technical term but one thing is for sure, the acts of those who killed the troopers were very inhumane. It may not be a war crime but I think it is a crime against humanity.
    Last edited by rac98; February 11th, 2015 at 12:57 PM.

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    #702
    accurate kaya yung homemade barret 50 cal ng milf, kasi yun daw dahilan kaya wasak ang ulo ng ibang member ng 55th sac.

    kala ko upload ng video ng nagnakaw sa fallen saf, live transmission pala nangyayari sa video.

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    #703
    Quote Originally Posted by victorevolution View Post
    change history, when your facts was not even right and you even just based your rebuttal on a miscalculated math.

    re footage of saf video being killed and shot twice at point blank range in the head... that was a stolen mini dv cam transmitting real live footage. when the milf stole it, they might not have an idea it was transmitting- yes it was the mamasampano incident.
    four things and I will not engage with you anymore whatever you say.
    first, did I say who owns the camera? I said I saw the video too and it was murder. and from my observation it (or the footage) was taken some time between 11 am to 1 pm.
    second, you said "30 years ago". so i commented, check your facts or history because 30 years ago we were still under marcos. then you said 27 years and you rounded it off to 30. so i said history is chronological records of events, not math (where you can just round off so easily). you talk about what happened in the past do not round it off because we're talking about history. that is why I said do not change history.
    third, don't take it personally, you commit a mistake have the humility to accept it. why just you don't say, "ok 27 years or so, it's my fault."
    fourth,move on. don't shoot the messenger.

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    #704
    Quote Originally Posted by rac98 View Post
    Sir, I totally agree that they deserve the highest honors. They indeed heroes and gallantly fought their enemies to their last breath. Words cannot describe their heroism. As you said, they are the best of the best, they went in even though they lacked some assets that their western counterparts would have. I am one of many who salute them in their bravery and heroism.

    On another note, the SAF members as seen in the video were already defenseless. They were badly injured or dying. They were in a physical state that they are unable to fight back. This fact qualifies it to murder. Also aggravated by the fact that their equipment, personal belongings, and even stripping them partially, if not totally naked. And considering that this was done not only to one SAF member but many, I would call it �massacre� and not just overkill.

    We may call it massacre, overkill or whatever technical term but one thing is for sure, the acts of those who killed the troopers were very inhumane. It may not be a war crime but I think it is a crime against humanity.
    Well said, Sir. thank you.

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    #705
    ^^ thank you Sir.

    Oh, and one thing kept hanging on my mind:

    Would one talk peace with these kind of people?

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    #706
    Another hearing taking place at the HR. Mas magulo ito. Parang palengke atmosphere........

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    #707
    SAF member shot in cold blood in video identified...RIP


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    #708
    Grabe. On top of their basic pay, a soldier on assignment get this additional " benefits".

    Combat pay - P240/ mo
    Hazard pay - P1,020 being paid quarterly

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    #709
    On top of my head,did any of our honorable ladies and gentlemen of both chambers bother to asked those Muslim rebels if they consider themselves Filipinos?just asking

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    #710
    have the CHR groups made any statement about this, or are they still "gathering evidence" ?

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