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    #1111
    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Huios was used in Galatians 3:26 but was not referred to Jesus as oppose to the quotes by "SAFEORIGIN"
    Sure...



    Huios - New Testament Greek Lexicon - New American Standard

    Teknon - New Testament Greek Lexicon - New American Standard

    Oh, what was that you were saying about me?
    Last edited by safeorigin; December 6th, 2013 at 11:31 PM.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Mile2, advice ko lang, wag kang umasa sa literal na syntax/phrasing ng nababasa mo sa bible, kasi kahit yan, translated na. And even the pure jewish text is of course adulterated because it was written by men (albeit divinely inspired as they say).

    Kung totoong naiintindihan mo ang relihiyon/kultong pinaniniwalaan mo, you should be able to express your understanding in your own words.


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    Hehehe matagal na kong nakikipag debate sa internet pero wala talagang basehan iyan 3 person God, kahit saan daanin, kahit pa gumamit ng hebrew at greek.

    The reality is that most advocates of 3 person God, read the Bible differently, they read John 10:30, "I and the Father are one" and they read it as One God hehehe di ko alam kung malabo ang mata o sinasadya na lang bulagin ang mata sa pagbasa. They read "only begotten Son of God" automatically they would read it as if Jesus is God. Read your Bible even Satan was once amongst the "sons of God", he was a fallen angel.

    Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. (Job 1:6).

    Begotten was translated from MONOGENES, rendering “one and only” is semantically reductionistic and theologically inadequate. In the Epistle to the Hebrews, it is said that when Abraham was ready to sacrifice Isaac he was offering up “his only-begotten” (11:17), although Abraham had another son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    Here let me help you From the same site where lifted your reference

    Galatians 3:26 KJV - Interlinear Bible - Online Bible Study Tools

    Huios - New Testament Greek Lexicon - King James Version

    Hoping you can read Greek text.

    And here's one easy for you to understand link Galatians 3:26 (KJV) - For ye are all the childre - Forerunner Commentary - Interlinear Bible
    Last edited by Mile2; December 7th, 2013 at 12:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Hehehe matagal na kong nakikipag debate sa internet pero wala talagang basehan iyan 3 person God, kahit saan daanin, kahit pa gumamit ng hebrew at greek.

    The reality is that most advocates of 3 person God, read the Bible differently, they read John 10:30, "I and the Father are one" and they read it as One God hehehe di ko alam kung malabo ang mata o sinasadya na lang bulagin ang mata sa pagbasa. They read "only begotten Son of God" automatically they would read it as if Jesus is God. Read your Bible even Satan was once amongst the "sons of God", he was a fallen angel.

    Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. (Job 1:6).

    Begotten was translated from MONOGENES, rendering “one and only” is semantically reductionistic and theologically inadequate. In the Epistle to the Hebrews, it is said that when Abraham was ready to sacrifice Isaac he was offering up “his only-begotten” (11:17), although Abraham had another son.

    ahh pero si manalo pa din ang huling sugo at ang far east ay ang pilipinas.

    hahahahah. yung obvious di mabasa ung hindi obvious at gustong paniwalaan "LEGIT".

    wahahahahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainmafia_310 View Post
    ahh pero si manalo pa din ang huling sugo at ang far east ay ang pilipinas.

    hahahahah. yung obvious di mabasa ung hindi obvious at gustong paniwalaan "LEGIT".

    wahahahahah
    Go laugh on the obvious Read your bible and be informed.

    Have you ever noticed that the Lord has a God and that the Bible speaks of the God of the Lord?


    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort. (2 Corinthians 1:3).

    The God and Father of our Lord Jesus. (2 Corinthians 11:31).

    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Ephesians 1:3).

    The God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory. (Ephesians 1:17).

    We give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ" (Colossians 1:3).

    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Peter 1:3).

    These verses literally read in the Greek, "The God... of the Lord of us."

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    But then when we move further to Galatians 4:5, we will know in what exact context Paul meant by huios when he refers to followers of Christ in his letter to Galatians. Obviously, he was careful to clarify this.

    Interlinear Bible for Galatians 4:5:
    To {hina (#2443)} redeem {exagorazo (#1805)} them {xurao (#3588)} that were under {hupo (#5259) the law}, {nomos (#3551)} that {hina (#2443)} we might receive {apolambano (#618)} the {xurao (#3588)} adoption of sons. {huiothesia (#5206)}
    Galatians 4:5 (KJV) - To redeem them that were un - Forerunner Commentary - Interlinear Bible

    Otherwise, teknon is used to refer to children of God.

    For better explanation: link

    same site, BTW.
    Last edited by safeorigin; December 7th, 2013 at 02:36 AM.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Hehehe matagal na kong nakikipag debate sa internet pero wala talagang basehan iyan 3 person God, kahit saan daanin, kahit pa gumamit ng hebrew at greek.

    The reality is that most advocates of 3 person God, read the Bible differently, they read John 10:30, "I and the Father are one" and they read it as One God hehehe di ko alam kung malabo ang mata o sinasadya na lang bulagin ang mata sa pagbasa. They read "only begotten Son of God" automatically they would read it as if Jesus is God. Read your Bible even Satan was once amongst the "sons of God", he was a fallen angel.

    Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. (Job 1:6).

    Begotten was translated from MONOGENES, rendering “one and only” is semantically reductionistic and theologically inadequate. In the Epistle to the Hebrews, it is said that when Abraham was ready to sacrifice Isaac he was offering up “his only-begotten” (11:17), although Abraham had another son.
    Are you implying the God had another son to another woman?

    You really don't understand what sons/children mean in those passages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    As clarified by A.C. Gaebelein in his book, The Annotated Bible (Penteteuch). p. 29, we must not take its meaning in the New Testament in the same context as the Old Testament.
    ^Yes... and it's so convenient to ignore the rest of my post...

    Old Testament - http://www.biblestudytools.com/encyc...ns-of-god.html

    New Testament - http://www.biblestudytools.com/encyc...testament.html

    Isaac in that context can also be implied as appointed or beloved as I previously mentioned since Paul was addressing Hebrews.

    Yachid' (יָחִיד) - means only son. It can also mean beloved son or only begotten son. This comes from the root word Yachad (יָחַד) meaning united. The confusion, however, comes from its synonym Bachar (בָּחַר) meaning chosen or appointed.
    Last edited by safeorigin; December 7th, 2013 at 03:55 AM.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    ^Yes... and it's so convenient to ignore the rest of my post...

    Old Testament - Sons Of God - International Standard Bible Encyclopedia

    New Testament - Sons Of God (New Testament) - International Standard Bible Encyclopedia

    Isaac in that context can also be implied as appointed or beloved as I previously mentioned since Paul was addressing Hebrews.
    Excellent post. Babalik nanaman tayo sa Trinity nito, because of the excerpt of the link you posted.

    Two Greek words are translated "son," teknon, huios, both words indicating sonship by parentage, the former indicating that the sonship has taken place by physical descent, while the latter presents sonship more from the legal side than from the standpoint of relationship.

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    Magpapa convert ako to INC basta no money involve....pwede kaya yun?...pag may session kasi sila payabangan sa pagdadala ng pagkain...yun ang wala sa catholic hehehehehehehe

    Sent from Toyota Chatswood NSW...GT-I9505
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