Iglesia ni Cristo Refused Shelter

**170kphlang** · November 17th, 2013 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Mile2

Yung totoong Dios ng Bible hindi nyo matanggap, threrefore kahit yung mangangaral di nyo matatanggap.

Feed yourself with false doctrines about God like Retz, gayahin ninyo si Retz at huwag ninyo paniwalaan si Cristo na ang Ama lang ang tunay na Dios, nagpost pa si Retz ng talata John 17:1,3 tapos ayaw niyang paniawalaan yung sinabi mismo ni Cristo.

sinabi ni Cristo o sinabi no manalo?

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**170kphlang** · November 17th, 2013 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by testament11

Starts with letter T

testament.. :D joke lang.

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**[archie]** · November 17th, 2013 09:56 PM

Teka you said:

Originally Posted by Mile2

Sorry, I can only accept facts and not blabbered fallacy

Then why ignore this:

Originally Posted by [archie]

For reasons unknown, previous thread was deleted. But the fact remains, you said these things:

Fact: you quoted the bible "everyone MUST give"

Fact: you deny na kung wala ka pera, hindi pwede sumali.

Fact: Those two are contradicting.

Who is right?

A. You

B. Bible

I think your common sense should be able to grasp on how to answer.

**Dark Lord** · November 17th, 2013 09:56 PM

Ayos yan xagent. Pero paalala lang. Tatapatan ka dyan. Baka may magbigay ng 55% naman.

Originally Posted by xagent_orangex

hindi ba tinuturo sa Iglesia nyo na ang pagbasa ng Bible ay "with the context" at hindi "per word" or "per verse"?

paki post na din dito kung saang book sa Bible binanggit yang "sugo" ninyo na si Manalo...kung meron sa Bible yang "sugo" ninyo sasapi ako sa Iglesia ni Cristo at 50% ng sahod ko ibibigay ko.

**Mile2** · November 17th, 2013 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by ClaNker

They deny that Christ is God but worship Him because God commanded it. Men worshiping a Man.

In Acts 2:22, this is written:

People of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus from Nazareth was a very special man. God clearly showed this to you by the miracles, wonders, and signs he did through Jesus. You all know this, because it happened right here among you.

What did God do to Jesus and what was the purpose of God in making Jesus both Lord and Christ?

In Philippians 2:8-9, this is written:

8. he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death--
even death on a cross.
9. Therefore God also highly exalted him and gave him the name that is above every name,

Because of His obedience to God, God exalted Jesus and gave Him the name above every name,

What was God's purpose?

10. so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bend, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11. and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Philippians 2: 10-11)

The same verses in another version of the Bible:

so that all created beings in heaven and on earth—even those long ago dead and buried—will bow in worship before this Jesus Christ, and call out in praise that he is the Master of all, to the glorious honor of God the Father. (Philippians 2: 10-11,)

God wants everyone to "bow in worship" and "call out in praise" that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory or glorious honor of God the Father. Please note, that Jesus in not being worshiped just because He is God but He is being worshipped because it is the will and for the glorious honor of God the Father.

Why is worshiping the Lord Jesus Christ to the glorious honor of God the Father?

"that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him. (John 5:23,)

He who honors the Son honors the Father who sent Him. Thus worshiping Jesus is for the glorious honor of God the Father.

**170kphlang** · November 17th, 2013 09:58 PM

magtayo na tayo ng sariling iglesia. akona gagawa ng doctrina. "may isang angel from tsikot" na nanaig pa sa ibang dukhang mga mapagpanggap na sugo at 10% lang ititira niyo aa sarili niyo ayon sa doctrina na ito. ayaw ko ng amen gusto ko zoom zoom sagot ninyo

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**testament11** · November 17th, 2013 09:59 PM

^
Sows, sagutin mo in simple terms. Nagdudugo na mata namin dito kakabasa ng mga copy paste mong sagot :bwahaha:

**testament11** · November 17th, 2013 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by 170kphlang

magtayo na tayo ng sariling iglesia. akona gagawa ng doctrina. "may isang angel from tsikot" na nanaig pa sa ibang dukhang mga mapagpanggap na sugo at 10% lang ititira niyo aa sarili niyo ayon sa doctrina na ito. ayaw ko ng amen gusto ko zoom zoom sagot ninyo

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**ClaNker** · November 17th, 2013 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Mile2

Why is worshiping the Lord Jesus Christ to the glorious honor of God the Father?

"that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him. (John 5:23,)

He who honors the Son honors the Father who sent Him. Thus worshiping Jesus is for the glorious honor of God the Father.

Therefore Christ is not a mere man, otherwise its idolatry for God is a jealous God and only want to be worshiped alone.

Alangan namang ma munga ng bayabas ang manga.

**Retz** · November 17th, 2013 10:03 PM

This is a good illustration as to why Jesus Christ is giving the Fatehr the higher authority than Him in some verses of the Bible. But it doesn't mean that Jesus is not God as what Arian based religion like INC kept on saying.