Flashpoint: East China Sea

**111prez** · November 27th, 2013 01:33 PM

Tensions are escalating at the East China Sea.

China unilaterally declares an Air Defence Identification Zone (ADIZ)

Japan ignores this. Korea protests

US flies 2 US B-52 bombers to test Chinese resolve

Now, Japanese airlines will ignore the Chinese ADIZ.

Who will blink first? How far will this go?

Will China do the same for the Spratleys and West Philippine Sea?

**Syuryuken** · November 27th, 2013 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by 111prez

Tensions are escalating at the East China Sea.

China unilaterally declares an Air Defence Identification Zone (ADIZ)

Japan ignores this. Korea protests

US flies 2 US B-52 bombers to test Chinese resolve

Now, Japanese airlines will ignore the Chinese ADIZ.

Who will blink first? How far will this go?

Will China do the same for the Spratleys and West Philippine Sea?

exempted daw ang US sabi ng China

**Altis6453** · November 27th, 2013 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by 111prez

Tensions are escalating at the East China Sea.

China unilaterally declares an Air Defence Identification Zone (ADIZ)

Japan ignores this. Korea protests

US flies 2 US B-52 bombers to test Chinese resolve

Now, Japanese airlines will ignore the Chinese ADIZ.

Who will blink first? How far will this go?

Will China do the same for the Spratleys and West Philippine Sea?

AFAIK, even Australia summoned the Chinese ambassador to convey its protest over the ADIZ over the Senkaku Islands. It only shows that China is not fit to responsibly assume a leadership role among nations in Asia, and that any influence it has over other more docile countries has to do more with its money than its foreign policies.

**marg** · November 27th, 2013 02:20 PM

China already blinked this morning.

China = 1 aircraft carrier in training.
USA = 12 Super carriers with naval warfare experience since the 1700's.

**safeorigin** · November 28th, 2013 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by marg

China already blinked this morning.

China = 1 aircraft carrier in training.
USA = 12 Super carriers with naval warfare experience since the 1700's.

Sure... 10 carriers. I wonder much time is left in the hull, oh wait... operating beyond service capacity.

**Manilablock** · November 27th, 2013 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by marg

China already blinked this morning.

China = 1 aircraft carrier in training.
USA = 12 Super carriers with naval warfare experience since the 1700's.

Hmmm, mukhang totoo tuloy ang HAARP, since hindi pwede magpadala ng aircraft carriers ang US kung wala naman conflict, dahil sa yolanda nagkaroon sila ng reason to go to asia. Pero baka nagkataoon lan....

**greenlyt** · November 27th, 2013 02:44 PM

Lt. Col. Tom Crosson, a military spokesman, described the flights as “uneventful” and said they were part of a previously scheduled training mission. He said there was “no contact, no reaction from China.”

By Craig Whitlock, Updated: Wednesday, November 27, 1:09 PM The Washington Post

tama nga si sir Syuryuken: exempted nga ang US

**badkuk** · November 27th, 2013 02:43 PM

China bought its carrier from Russia. afaik Russia gutted out all the electronics, then basically sold the chassis. Now unless some US defense contractors outsource the production of such equipment to China(wink wink nudge nudge), then they have to build that up from scratch.

As one US military expert/official noted, having a carrier is one thing, you also have to develop the personell, protocols, etc. Unless somebody offers to do that for them, tingin ko matatagalan din to. imho i don't think even Russia would want to do that.

But then again, mayabang ang China, much too mayabang for its own good. Let's see if this is a bluff or if it's for real.