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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Grabe blindsided lahat! We did not see that coming!

    i'm not surprised.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 29th, 2021 at 10:13 PM.

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    The lies keep on coming.

    EXCLUSIVE: Did Bongbong Marcos lie about Oxford, Wharton?


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    it doesn't matter if she "has no track record"

    what matters is her popularity

    THEY made leni run coz she's the only candidate who is popular enough to drive the davao group out of power

    that's the goal (and of course to return power to imperial manila)

    it's like the US democrats chose an old man who already has dementia to run for president coz he's the only one popular enough to beat Trump so the democrats can return to power

    it's not about the candidate

    it's about the people who will benefit when the candidate wins
    Ano nga ba ang ambag ni Leni Robredo noong nasa kongreso siya? Narito ang ilang mga publicly available references para sa kanyang mga naisulat na mga panukalang batas.

    LAWS FROM BILLS AUTHORED

    RA 10708 - Tax Incentives Management and Transparency Act (TIMTA), Author of HB 2492 - An Act Enhancing the Current Tax System by Implementing Measures that Ensure Transparency in the Management and Accounting of Tax Incentives Granted to Government and Nongovernment Entities and for Other Purposes Republic Act No. 178 | Official Gazette of the Republic of the Philippines
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/d...-10708-BSA.pdf
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/HB02492.pdf
    Tax Incentives Management and Transparency Act (TIMTA) - Department of Finance
    https://www.pwc.com/ph/en/tax-alerts...-alert-46.html
    https://www.rappler.com/business/eco...ansparency-act

    RA 10661 - National Children's Month Act, Co-Author as HB 1641 (16th Congress); enacted on 2015-05-29
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10661/
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/hbt1641.pdf
    https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/118570...ldrens-month-2
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/d...-10661-BSA.pdf
    https://web.archive.org/web/20160723...hildrens-month

    RA 10646 - Charter of the Quezon City Development Authority, Co-Author as HB 3899 (15th Congress); Lapsed into law on 2014-11-08 https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10646/
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/CR00049.pdf
    https://manilastandard.net/mobile/article/213141

    RA 10665 - Open High School System Act, Co-Author as HB 4085 (16th Congress); enacted on 2015-07-09
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10665/
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/hbt4085.pdf

    RA 10638 - Extending the corporate life of the Philippine National Railways, Co-Author as HB 4089 (16th Congress); enacted on 2014-06-16 http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/hbt4089.pdf
    https://pnr.gov.ph/news-media/press-...-50-years.html
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10638/

    RA 10707 - Amending the Probation Law of 1976, Co-Author as HB 4147 (16th Congress); enacted on 2015-11-26
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10707/
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...6/hbt04147.pdf

    RA 10643 - Graphic Health Warnings Law, Co-author as HB 4590 (16th Congress); enacted on 2014-07-15
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10643/
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/hbt4590.pdf
    https://doh.gov.ph/Graphic-Health-Wa...he-Philippines
    https://doh.gov.ph/sites/default/fil...RA%2010643.pdf

    RA 10655 - An Act Repealing the Crime of Premature Marriage, Co-Author HB 5280 (16th Congress); enacted on 2015-03-13 https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10655/
    https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2...ature-marriage
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/hbt5280.pdf

    RA 10742 - Sangguniang Kabataan Reform Act of 2015, Co-Author as HB 6043 (16th Congress); enacted on 2016-01-15
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10742/
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/i...A-10742-SK.pdf
    https://www.philstar.com/pilipino-st...1544997/komiks

    RA 10633, 10651, 10717 - General Appropriations Act FY 2014, 2015, 2016.
    2014 GAA https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10633/
    2015 GAA https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10651/
    2016 GAA https://www.dbm.gov.ph/index.php/bud...2016-vol-1a-1b

    BILLS AUTHORED

    HB 19 - Full Disclosure Bill, Principal Author as HB 19 (16th Congress); Substituted by HB 6467 (16th Congress)
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/HB00019.pdf
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/CR01036.pdf
    https://www.rappler.com/nation/leni-...ure-government
    https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2...t-transactions
    https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/602574...isclosure-bill

    HB 3905 - Participatory Budget Process Bill, Principal Author as HB 3905 (16th Congress); Substituted by HB 4113 (16th Congress) http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/HB03905.pdf
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/CR00139.pdf
    https://www.philstar.com/opinion/201...-rosarios-bash

    HB 4911 - People Empowerment Bill of 2014, Principal Author as HB 4911 (16th Congress)
    http://www.congress.g

    https://www.facebook.com/10459284533...5752654218681/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    Ano nga ba ang ambag ni Leni Robredo noong nasa kongreso siya? Narito ang ilang mga publicly available references para sa kanyang mga naisulat na mga panukalang batas.

    LAWS FROM BILLS AUTHORED

    RA 10708 - Tax Incentives Management and Transparency Act (TIMTA), Author of HB 2492 - An Act Enhancing the Current Tax System by Implementing Measures that Ensure Transparency in the Management and Accounting of Tax Incentives Granted to Government and Nongovernment Entities and for Other Purposes Republic Act No. 178 | Official Gazette of the Republic of the Philippines
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/d...-10708-BSA.pdf
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/HB02492.pdf
    Tax Incentives Management and Transparency Act (TIMTA) - Department of Finance
    Tax Alert No. 46 - Isla Lipana & Co., PwC Philippines
    https://www.rappler.com/business/eco...ansparency-act

    RA 10661 - National Children's Month Act, Co-Author as HB 1641 (16th Congress); enacted on 2015-05-29
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10661/
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/hbt1641.pdf
    https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/118570...ldrens-month-2
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/d...-10661-BSA.pdf
    https://web.archive.org/web/20160723...hildrens-month

    RA 10646 - Charter of the Quezon City Development Authority, Co-Author as HB 3899 (15th Congress); Lapsed into law on 2014-11-08 https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10646/
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/CR00049.pdf
    https://manilastandard.net/mobile/article/213141

    RA 10665 - Open High School System Act, Co-Author as HB 4085 (16th Congress); enacted on 2015-07-09
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10665/
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/hbt4085.pdf

    RA 10638 - Extending the corporate life of the Philippine National Railways, Co-Author as HB 4089 (16th Congress); enacted on 2014-06-16 http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/hbt4089.pdf
    https://pnr.gov.ph/news-media/press-...-50-years.html
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10638/

    RA 10707 - Amending the Probation Law of 1976, Co-Author as HB 4147 (16th Congress); enacted on 2015-11-26
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10707/
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...6/hbt04147.pdf

    RA 10643 - Graphic Health Warnings Law, Co-author as HB 4590 (16th Congress); enacted on 2014-07-15
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10643/
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/hbt4590.pdf
    https://doh.gov.ph/Graphic-Health-Wa...he-Philippines
    https://doh.gov.ph/sites/default/fil...RA%2010643.pdf

    RA 10655 - An Act Repealing the Crime of Premature Marriage, Co-Author HB 5280 (16th Congress); enacted on 2015-03-13 https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10655/
    https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2...ature-marriage
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/hbt5280.pdf

    RA 10742 - Sangguniang Kabataan Reform Act of 2015, Co-Author as HB 6043 (16th Congress); enacted on 2016-01-15
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10742/
    https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/i...A-10742-SK.pdf
    https://www.philstar.com/pilipino-st...1544997/komiks

    RA 10633, 10651, 10717 - General Appropriations Act FY 2014, 2015, 2016.
    2014 GAA https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10633/
    2015 GAA https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2...-act-no-10651/
    2016 GAA https://www.dbm.gov.ph/index.php/bud...2016-vol-1a-1b

    BILLS AUTHORED

    HB 19 - Full Disclosure Bill, Principal Author as HB 19 (16th Congress); Substituted by HB 6467 (16th Congress)
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/HB00019.pdf
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/CR01036.pdf
    https://www.rappler.com/nation/leni-...ure-government
    https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2...t-transactions
    https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/602574...isclosure-bill

    HB 3905 - Participatory Budget Process Bill, Principal Author as HB 3905 (16th Congress); Substituted by HB 4113 (16th Congress) http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/HB03905.pdf
    http://www.congress.gov.ph/legisdocs...16/CR00139.pdf
    https://www.philstar.com/opinion/201...-rosarios-bash

    HB 4911 - People Empowerment Bill of 2014, Principal Author as HB 4911 (16th Congress)
    http://www.congress.g

    https://www.facebook.com/10459284533...5752654218681/


    https://m.facebook.com/groups/854533...2946497232526/
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    Si bbm daw 84 authored, 21 co-authored bills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Si bbm daw 84 authored, 21 co-authored bills.
    Usually, when one uses the word “daw”, it is to pass off the subject as credible but at the same time deflect the blame from one’s self.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Usually, when one uses the word “daw”, it is to pass off the subject as credible but at the same time deflect the blame from one’s self.


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    Huwag mo nang gawing complicated ang "daw" ay short for "sabi nila" , "ayon sa kanila," "sabi ng iba"

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Huwag mo nang gawing complicated ang "daw" ay short for "sabi nila" , "ayon sa kanila," "sabi ng iba"
    Ang ibig ko sabihin, post links. Mas credible kung may makikita kami. Madali sabihin yung “daw”, “sabi nila”… pero hearsay yun. Mas gusto namin yung may nababasa o nakikita kami.


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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Si bbm daw 84 authored, 21 co-authored bills.

    Lies, lies, and more lies
    By: Solita Collas-Monsod - *inquirerdotnet
    Philippine Daily Inquirer / 05:06 AM October 30, 2021

    Like father, like son.

    President Ferdinand Marcos lied about the medals he received during World War II. Government brochures during his presidency claimed that he was the country’s most decorated soldier, a claim echoed by his wife, Imelda. He stood by that lie all through his life. And that lie jumpstarted his political career; up to his presidency and beyond, he was mouthing it.

    How do we know it is a lie? I will not cite the National Historical Commission of the Philippines (NHCP) research on the matter, nor will I cite the research of army veteran Boni Gillego, or historian Ricardo Jose on the matter. They all said that his claims were without basis. Why will I not use them? Because, unfortunately, they are Filipinos and can be painted by the trolls as biased or anti-Marcos.

    I will cite, though, a December 1983 Washington Post report by John Sharkey, assistant foreign editor, which detailed the findings “of an 18-month effort to verify Marcos’ claims to high American decorations.” The effort was thorough—it included a search of US military archives, a detailed examination of official military histories, personal memoirs and portions of Marcos’ personal file at the US military records center in St. Louis, and conversations with Philippine and American survivors of the war. His conclusion: It “raises serious doubts about whether he actually was awarded them.”

    This was not the only lie Ferdinand Marcos fed to the Filipino people, of course. It was followed by many more. But this is what gave him his start.

    And now his son has lied about his education at Oxford University. He lied about it until he was caught out in 2015 by Rappler’s Marites Vitug. How do we know he lied about it? Well, his CV in the Senate of the Philippines (he was a senator from 2010-2016) shows that he earned a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science, Philosophy, and Economics. On the other hand, Vitug showed an email from Clare Woodcock, spokesperson for Oxford University, who wrote: “We can confirm that a Ferdinand Marcos matriculated at the University of Oxford in 1975 to read for a BA in Philosophy, Philosophy, and Economics. According to our records, he did not complete his degree, but was awarded a Special Diploma in Social Studies in 1978.”

    And what is a Special Diploma? Apparently, Oxford no longer offers it, but it has been described thusly: “Anyone who only has a diploma did not complete the 3-year degree course, did not take the exams, and therefore has not been conferred a BA.” In other words, it is a consuelo de bobo for dropouts.

    Bongbong surely knew the score, but he lied again about it, as recounted by Vitug. First, he said that it was a diploma in political science; then he told reporters in 2015: “I got a diploma … What do you get when you graduate? A diploma!”

    A barefaced lie.

    He also lied about his Wharton stay. His Senate CV states that he has a master’s degree from Wharton. No such thing.

    Having been shown up, he still apparently cannot resist the urge to lie. His present website still insists: “He completed his undergraduate studies at Oxford University and graduated with a Special Diploma in Social Studies.” Sigh. He DID NOT GRADUATE. See above.

    But Bongbong follows in his father’s footsteps not only in lying, but in other matters as well. Justice Tony Carpio’s column this week cites Bongbong’s having been convicted of failing to file income tax returns and failing to pay taxes from 1982 to 1985 both in the trial court and in the court of appeals (final and executory). What it did not say was that Bongbong Marcos at the time was vice governor and then governor of Ilocos Norte.

    He was holding high public office when he failed to declare and pay his taxes. If it was for only a year, perhaps it could be excused. But four years?

    Where are his principles? His values? Lying to the Filipino people. Cheating them. Like his father did—his father, whom he has tried his best to distance from while at the same time claiming that his father did good. If he was old enough to be governor, he certainly was old enough to know what his parents were doing (stealing the country blind, among others).

    And this man is running for president? Do we really want another Marcos? Filipinos, wake up!


    Lies, lies, and more lies | Inquirer Opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Ang ibig ko sabihin, post links. Mas credible kung may makikita kami. Madali sabihin yung “daw”, “sabi nila”… pero hearsay yun. Mas gusto namin yung may nababasa o nakikita kami.


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    O yung mga hindi pa registered dyan….


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