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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackraven View Post
    Right now, the Japs still have the long lead.

    Pero the Koreans have been catching up fast in the area of build quality and reliability.

    I've seen this myself.

    For example, the Santa Fe (which was launched last year) was an SUV that had somewhat of a messy interior. The unit I saw (yung sa Manila Motor Show) had messy AC control layout and messy stereo layout.....with the steering wheel only having a so-so design (not bad but not good either).I wasn't really impressed with Korean vehicles then (well maybe except the Tucson, Matrix, Getz and Accent......a bit) and I would never consider any Korean car.



    Messy ba tawag pag maraming features? this interior is a lot more functional and reasonable that my 8th gen Civic's "higtech" interior. even sound quality is better.

    the Vera Cruz ofcourse is in a different league compared to it's younger siblings (Santa Fe, Tucson, Sonata etc).

    where is that long lead? sorry, OT.

    i've owned 2 Japanese cars (8tyh gen USDM Civic and 1.3 City, not SUV though) and a Korean suv. here's my take...

    Generally speaking, Korean cars(hyundai/kia) now have more usefullfull features, better built quality( Hyundai's door slam sound is more solid) and have more well thought-off details in terms of interior/exterior.while Jap cars are begiinning to be "tacky", IMO.

    But nothing quite comes close to their(Koreans) CRDI Engine/s. way better than their Jap ( even American) counterparts.

    again, just recalling Top Gear mag April Issue. comparison of Sub-compact SUVS in Philippines.

    1. 2.2CRDI Santa Fe
    2. 2.5 Sorento EX
    3. 2.5 Fortuner
    4. 3.0 Alterra

    and oh, please check this one http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...=27145&page=51
    Last edited by yuichi; May 7th, 2007 at 08:41 AM.

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    Galit talaga ang mga koreans sa mga japanese because of their history. Kaya gusto talaga ng mga koreano na pataubin ang mga hapon.

    Pagdating sa mga vehicles, mabilis ang learning curve ng mga koreano. From their first early models to the current ones, you will see the big big difference.

    But when it comes to the iconic suvs like the land cruisers, pajeros, patrols, I don't think the koreans can catch up because you need to prove this for many many years on the field. Also, I guess japanese steel is more superior than the koreans at the moment.

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    When Hyundai introduced the VeraCruz with the 3.0L V6 CRDi VGT engine - it became apparent that the Koreans can now go toe-to-toe against the Japanese at least in the cross-over / soft-off roader SUV department.

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    i would agree that the japanese have the big lead in this, but the koreans are slowly catching up.

    my prediction? kung ano yung koreans before, yan naman ang pipilitin ng mga chinese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drave View Post
    Galit talaga ang mga koreans sa mga japanese because of their history. Kaya gusto talaga ng mga koreano na pataubin ang mga hapon.

    Pagdating sa mga vehicles, mabilis ang learning curve ng mga koreano. From their first early models to the current ones, you will see the big big difference.

    But when it comes to the iconic suvs like the land cruisers, pajeros, patrols, I don't think the koreans can catch up because you need to prove this for many many years on the field. Also, I guess japanese steel is more superior than the koreans at the moment.
    Tama ka dian Drave ;) pag may pantapat na sila sa LC, Patrol, and Pajero puede na natin siguro sabihin na kaya na ng Korean ang Japanese pag dating sa SUV. And siempre pag may pantapat na sila for Lexus, Acura and Infiniti.

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    What I can say is that marami pang bigas kakainin ang mga Koreans bago makapag level sa mga Japs. Well, that was applicable several years back. Sa ngayon mukhang marami na ngang bigas na kinain mga Koreans because of their leapfrogging improvement in building their cars. I've read in one article that Toyota's target is not really GM. It's the Hyundai/Kia duo they may have to face as their sparring partner in the future. Baka nga!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drave View Post
    . Also, I guess japanese steel is more superior than the koreans at the moment.
    parang kill bill samurai baga

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue View Post
    Also, I guess japanese steel is more superior than the koreans at the moment.

    parang kill bill samurai baga
    design and concept is one thing...

    metallurgy is another thing. I guess medyo lamang pa nga siguro mga hapon pagdating sa tibang ng makina because of the inherent durability of how they make their metallic parts.

    it's like comparing the German made metallic spare parts of the old Volkswagen beetle vs. their Mexican counterparts. mas matibay talga yung German made so you get what you pay for in the end.

    Nung bago pa lang Korean trucks, naririnig ko sa mga truckers namin, iba daw tibay ng japanese bearings compared sa Korean. Dunno if this difference still holds true today.

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    Sa ngayon ay Magaling kung sa magaling ang korean made suv's pero di parin natin maiaalis na sa experience talagang lamang ang japanese. Dapat magsasali din mga koreano sa mga motoring events at manalo para ma reinforce yung kanilang katayuan. Sa Dakar for example o kaya sa mga rallye events. Pag nananlo na sila ng more than 3 times talagang lalo silang popogi.

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    halos pantay na kc ngaun ang jap at korean carmaker. depende nalang sa gusto ng buyer. pag hindi brand concious ung bibili malamang korean kukunin kc mas sulit yung money nila. pag nman mapili sa brand malamang jap kukunin (toyota or honda madalas). base on experience lang naman po

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