Toyota casa nag X-1R! Help!

[tagarito]

Mga sirs! Paano ito?

Nagpa-tune-up kanina ang erpats ko ng '03 Toyota Vios 1.3E sa Toyota Balintawak-North para sa 40,000km PMS. Maraming ginawa dahil heavy daw ang 40k. Umabot ng around P10,000 lahat lahat, with the labor, parts and fluids.

Pag-uwi niya sa bahay, nakita ko yung service billing may nakalagay na:

--Code-------------Description-----------------Units----Amount
..Sublet 2S3269... X1R................................ 1120.00

Ang mahal naman, at bakit walang units? Nagtataka talaga ako kung bakit may nilagay na X-1R sa sasakyan. Walang description sa kung ano ito (trans, brake, engine) at di siya sinabihang nilagyan ng X-1R ang tsikot. So far wala namang difference, aside from siyempre yung expected benefits ng PMS, especially with a new air filter. And hopefully, the 'magic' isn't happening yet on the engine. :nerves:

IMHO, mas bilib pa ako sa WD-40 kaysa sa X1-R, kung langis lang ang pag-uusapan. Pampadulas lang ang X-1R ng bearing ng gulong ng space shuttle launcher, kaya may NASA cert siya. Ang laki tuloy ng pagdududa ko sa TMC dahil naidagdag pa rin sa service record as a legitimate service at sa kanila pa mismo nanggaling ito. Bukod pa sa wala sa expected cost namin ang 'additive'.

Anong kababalaghan 'to? Puwede bang maglagay ng ganito ang casa sa sasakyan nang walang pahintulot sa customer? At kung sakali man, wala rin kaming nakuhang empty bottle ni ebidensiya na nilagyan nga ng X-1R ang makina. Sarado na sila kaya di na rin namin mabalikan. Can I ask for a refund on something I did not order? If I don't want this on my engine, can I ask them to drain the engine oil and replace it with new oil?

Help needed pls.

Thanks.

[washburn]

reklamo ka dapat alam mo kung anu nilalagay mo sa sasakyan mo, kumikita lang sila diyan sa mga additives na yan na wala naman nagagawang mabuti, the best parin ang frequent oil change (every 5K)
halos lahat ata ng casa may X-1R nakapagtataka

[tagarito]

Sa lunes talagang irereklamo namin ito. E paano ang makina? Di kaya masira ito dahil nilagyan ng X-1R? Alam ko alloy ang piston nito.

[userfriendly]

style talaga ng mga casa yan. may commisiion ang service advisor. next service specify mo no engine oil additive, no fuel treatment additive, no engine flush.

[speedyfix]

that's probably why so many toyota engines have bad cases of sludge. if pumayag sila drain it and replace with oil only.

[niky]

Complain, get a refund for the 1120, and have the oil changed again.

Unless the manual calls for it, they should never add additives to your engine oil without informing you first.

Your engine won't die because of it... but you don't really need it... and adding extra additives to an oil already filled with additives just puts more stuff in the oil that can break down over time, causing sludge.

[benchph1]

Its not just toyota. honda is also doing it nowadays. I remember reading in the owners manual that these kind of additives are not needed thats why i was surprised to see it in my parts list when i brought it for the car’s usual PM schedule.

I think they are capitalizing on the fact that most car owners today are unaware that they dont need those things.

For me i remove at least 3 items on the list. Theres the x1-r, a brake stop squeal and a aircon antibac. Saves me at least 2k on my bill.


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[babkalakal]

Also a victim here in Toyota Dasma Cavite.
Upon service x1r i asked them to remove it from the list to be done. Aba ang mga hinayupak pagka sauli sa service dinagdagan naman daw ng kesyo washer cleaning fluid and battery fluid all without my prior consent. Mag huhuramentado pa sana ako but thought otherwise. If i remember correctly i paid an something like an additional 200plus. Di na ako nag paservice uli sa kanila.

[996turbo]

Also a victim here in Toyota Dasma Cavite.
Upon service x1r i asked them to remove it from the list to be done. Aba ang mga hinayupak pagka sauli sa service dinagdagan naman daw ng kesyo washer cleaning fluid and battery fluid all without my prior consent. Mag huhuramentado pa sana ako but thought otherwise. If i remember correctly i paid an something like an additional 200plus. Di na ako nag paservice uli sa kanila.

With due respect Sir, wala pong X-1R na binibinta sa Toyota Dasmarinas, Cavite. I checked. Never had they sold X-1R.

[robot.sonic]

With due respect Sir, wala pong X-1R na binibinta sa Toyota Dasmarinas, Cavite. I checked. Never had they sold X-1R.

Bakit mo chineck? Tinanong mo talaga kung nagbenta na sila ever? Bakit?