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March 8th, 2007 02:40 AM #1Yamaha SRX 400cc or 600cc restorations
What is an SRX? .... watch a few Pinoy-restored Yamaha SRX on videos
you may watch video one at a time or
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March 8th, 2007 01:08 PM #2Are you cut for the SRX?
...read a short SRX history below or proceed to the next
"........karamihan hindi nila alam kung ano ang kwento ng mga modelo ng bikes ... so huwag ka ma susurpresa kung makakakita ka ng mga kawawang SRX na napabayaan dahil nabibili ito at abot kaya ng masa na Pinoy.... eto pa isang mahaba habang kwento para maintindihan at maliwanagan ka...
Sa pinaka maikling paraan na makwento ... noong 80's, ang SRX ay pinag isipan mabuti na i-design nung di pa na re-release sa market ang mga 4cylinder engine standard bikes na malalaki at matataba na motor na pang macho tita .... ang SRX ay single cylinder ang engine nung panahon na kasikatan ng ganung mga engine... may mga 2 cylinder na rin noon ...kumuha ng survey ang designers ng SRX at lumalabas na ang mga features na nilagay nila sa SRX ay yung mga gusto ng active na bikers sa panahon ng single cylinders... ginawa nilang sobrang simple ng design.. yung minimal requirement lang ika nga .. kaya kick start lang okay na ... dahil practikal ang mga active na bikers noon ... di pa tulad ngayon na lahat gusto luxury features na lalo na ng masa at mga bago o new generation bikers ....
so syempre nung na release na sa market ang single cylinder SRX tapos nilabas din ng ibang brand ang inline4 (kawasaki yata noon yung unang naglabas) biglang nagbago isip ng "market" (ito yung young generation.. kasama tayo dito) .. ang kinagat ng market ay yung inline4 engine bikes .. yun ang bumenta kasi halos pareho lang ang presyo ng pinaka advance na single cylinder sa bagong technology na 4 cylinders.... medyo di maganda ang sales ng SRX kaya madami ang na-stock o kaya ipinadala sa Western continents .. at binagsak ang presyo .... napansin ngayon ito ng mga iba ibang bike clubs sa iba ibang parte ng mundo at pinag aralan nila na maganda talaga ang pag-kakayari ng mga SRX .. alam nila na ginawa ang modelo na ito na talagang tatagal at matibay at walang "unecesary features"... napatunayan nga nila ito sa mga experience nila sa "patibayan" ... lalong nag desisiyon ang mga organizadong clubs na ito na mag-group purchase para makuha nila na masmababang presyo ang mga bargain price na SRX na nakatambak sa warehouses ng dealers at distributors...pinakyaw ng iba-ibang bike clubs ito at
doon nagsimula ang tinatawag nila na "culto" sa bikes .... kung baga sa relihyon ay may mga maliit na fanatic sa cultong relihyon nila.... pero sa bike di naman talaga relihyon kundi parang "culto" kasi masyadong naging parang fanatiko sa SRX ang mga nagkakaroon ng pagkakataong makabili at mag-ari nito (pero di naman talaga relihyon yun pag na describe na culto) .... so sumikat ang SRX noong siya ay tumanda na ... pero di siya pinansin nung sya ay kaka panganak pa lang ... hehehe
pero madaming karera na pinanalo itong srx600 laban sa mga ibang brand na single cylinders sa panahon na yon... at talagang mas matibay .. pero hindi ibig sabihin na pag pina-sagasa mo sa pison ay aandar pa rin ...hehehe.. kung gusto mo subukan pa sagasa sa pison, subukan mo... kwento mo na lang sa amin kung ano man mangyari sa pison ... hehehe ...
sa panahon ngayon, di na masyado pinangkakarera ang SRX.. street bike na sya kasi iba na ang technolohiya sa karera ngayon .. puro electronics na YATA ang labanan para mas mabilis at efficient ang mga bikes ... nasa kamay na ng mga kolector ang SRX sa labas ng bansa ...sa loob ng Pinas... dahil binenta ng mura ng mga dealers at distributors.... abot kaya na nabili ito ng mga masa .... at marami ang napapabayaan ... onli in da pilipins!
may mga pa ilan-ilan na SRX na naaalagaan ng nakaka-alam na collector na malaki ang garahe .... yung maliit lang ang garahe.. binebenta nila ang srx nila para mag upgrade sa ibang bikes ... pero karamihan na nasa masa syempre pinababayaan.... so ang mga kawawang SRX sa Pinas na di kaya ma maintain ng masa .... yung madami masisira at kakatayin for parts na mura...
(Hmmmm..... mukhang dapat makuha natin ang mga murang pyesa ng mga kakatayin na ito kaya plano ko magpost ng "looking for yamaha srx parts" sa mga classified)
....at yung iba na maaalagaan at talagang makinis ay tataas ang value tulad sa pag taas ng value nito sa Japan.... di na nga biglang makabili ang regular Japanese bike importers natin sa Pinas dahil sa pagtaas ng presyo sa labas ng bansa... pero kahit ano pang bike kahit Harley o Ducati o SRX, mababa ang presyo kung hindi na makinis."
What is a cafe racer?
"the "cafe racer" ... for the benefit of Pinoys who may not understand this term ... it is a term they coined for bikes and their riders during the early days in Europe when these bikes (along with other thumpers ... named "thumper" coz of the thump thump thump sound of single cylinders) were very popular among bikers at the time ... and until today .. but during those times, they tend to form clubs.. meet in cafes ... and they race their bikes... oftentimes they play music in juke boxes ... ride away hurriedly ... race to a certain preset/predetermined point and race back to the cafe even before the music record playing on the juke box had ended... it was a golden era ... yes we may not be in the golden era today but some of the popular cafes in europe have been in operation until today coz there are still thumper clubs that frequent them .... are very active ... and still very amazed by their aging machines!
and after reading that .... Please don't attempt to do that "cafe racer behavior" here in the Pi-lipins with all the heavy traffic and the predictably unpredictable 2- or 4-wheeled riders that trail like a snake on our poorly maintained narrow roads..."
Is the SRX for you?
http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com...&postcount=205
The SRX ... born more than 2 decades ago .... built to last several lifetimes ...built to satisfy what the people crave for in the 80's... "killed" by the flawless marketing of the big and beautiful inline4's and vtwins (which I also would like to own someday... maybe the 600cc) ... remained humble yet so lovable ....
do you love to own a retro cafe racer bike or a small sporty bike with classic shapes and curves?
do you prefer a low seater bike? are you short legged .... or normal leg length but feel comfortable with low seater bikes?
do you like thin, light-weight bikes that save some space and can plow through tight non-moviing traffic?
do you like a cheap but very durable "tank-like bike" whose present rock bottom price has nowhere to go but up?
do you want to add another low maintenance bike to your garage (lower maintenance than 2-stroke air cooled scooters)?
do you want to feel how extreme banking/cornering on a bigbike feels like?
do you love the thumping rap beats of the old big bore single cylinder engines?
do you love single cylinders and how they vibrate/gyrate between your legs on high throttle?
what it is like to ride on one? ... why not try riding an srx in the twisties... why not read about it first? ..... why not make it your learner bike? ..
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March 9th, 2007 11:55 PM #3Time to check out the ads and maybe evaluate a unit with your trusted mechanic
search "srx" in the advanced search option...
http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com/classifieds/
http://www.phadpost.com/ph/?db=ph_ve...te=ph&language
http://tsikot.yehey.com/auto-classif...cat=73&ppuser=
Assess roughly if restoration cost is acceptable to you...
list the parts that need changing... cross check with ORIG PARTS STORES and alternative parts or cheap DIY fixes... more of these to follow
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March 10th, 2007 12:01 AM #4FURTHER INFO ON SRX TECHNICAL SUPPORT/SERVICES IN MY GENERAL AREA
for those SRX owners near the paranaque/las pinas/alabang/muntinlupa/taguig areas ...
A)
SRX LEGAL/REGISTRATION/TRANSFER OR OWNERSHIP
I have my papers checked by Mr Bubuy Billeza ... he has knowledge of how to determine if the bikes papers are really legal or not... i think he also goes by his name in MCP.... I usually ask him about a bike's documents (plate numbers, area where registered...etc) over the phone..
http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com...ad.php?t=48733
Once i get ownership of a vehicle, I bring xerox papers of the OR and CR in a notary public near city hall where all registration and transfer paper processing or the like can be done on a "non-apearance basis"... pwede din yata i-fax na lang sa kanila OR/CR of course bayaran cash...to this date ... govt has been discouraging the influx of used
vehicles in the country to help our local industries .. so di pwede i-register ang mga recently imported used bikes hanggang ngayon.. di pa na lift ang order na ito ... pero may pa ilan ilan na used bike importers na maganda ang connection at nakaka pag rehistro sa Diliman so may record... try to contact these dealers baka matulungan kayo.
B)
SRX ELECTRICAL REPAIRS/MAINTENANCE
There is Mr. Manny Go - well known bigbike electrical specialist here
There is also Mr. Jun Mendoza - also the developer of the Pinoy rectifier ... also an electronic whiz for bikes.. he is currently developing a cdi for bikes
C)
SRX MECHANICAL REPAIRS
Still confrming with George (big bike mechanic in Sucat area near NAIA).. still trying to confirm if he can do home service bike repairs... sana talaga pwede siya.
Manong Golem .. this guy is known in Tramo in Las Pinas ... I just met him once .. he can not do home service so the bike has to be brought to his shop in Tramo ...
D)
SRX OEM PARTS
Yamaha / Norkis Mandaluyong.. expensive and long waiting period pero ALL ORIG... my contact is Mr. Neil Sumayang
also Norkis Cebu ...
try Caloocan Sales ... ask makilingrider mukhang suki na sya dun....
online stores such as
www.kneedraggers.com .....
www.kedo.com .....
www.granbymotors.co.uk/index.php
have not tried them yet ...
smaller shops such as:
Bentalls along Naga road
"Makilingrider" of MCP forum has a few srx parts for those in need
E)
SRX PROTECTIVE GEAR
so far .... Pinoy manufactured protective gear mabibili sa Taguig..
ROMRACING of MCP ang username nung gumagawa.. mukhang maganda ang gawa nila .. maraming satisfied customers...
F)
SRX RIDING LESSONS
want to join/ organize an srx riding lesson with lectures and hands on ... assisted by experienced big bikers? all we have to do is enlist as a group and we can enjoy the training...
contact me and if our numbers are good enough, we can find a good schedule and request a riding course... if we are lucky and we are many ... we can get it "almost free"
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March 10th, 2007 12:08 AM #5Very rough SRX Parts price comparison abroad
http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com...&postcount=150
Prices converted from Great Britain Pounds to Philippine Pesos
these are internet prices.. I think it will be cheaper to buy in person (pick up) if you are living/staying near the stores in Europe .. others are from ebay.. so prices are mixed ... it is a very very rough estimate and it might not be applicable here .. this is just to give us a rough idea .. after the list, we can copy/paste or add etc like what i will be doing in the next post.. feel free to give comments and share what you know in the local scene... and you may follow the randomly listed outline ...
Data from Europe/Internet
tire - 1800 to 4000 pesos
front brake pads-800 to 2000
clutch line - 2900
battery, for monoshock model -4000
speedo cable - 500 to 2000
K&N High Flow Air Filter YAMAHA SRX600 1986 - 3000
std air filter- 1400
oil filter - 360
fork oil seal-800/pair
choke cable-1700
clutch cable-1100
speedo cable-1000
tacho cable-1100
NGK iridium spark plug- 880
NGK spark plug - 235
side mirror , one side- 680 to 700
chain guard- 500
std chain -1600
chain and sprockets- 7350
swing arm -1000 to 5000
rear wheel plus tire- 1500
horn-400
ignition coil-800 to 2550
speedo drive -800
monoshock fuel tank-16000
brake lever-500 to 600
both levers- 1500
rear shock-6000/pair
spark plug-300
front wheel bearings -600
rear wheel bearings - 650
full gasket set-3200
fuel cap with keys- 2900
low friction suspension fluid- 700 per 500ml
steering head bearings set -2000
chrome foot rests -1600
grips-800
starter motor-1000
LOCK SET, IGNITION SWITCH,PETROL CAP - 3500
stock SRX400 exhaust-3000 to 6000
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Here are a few alternative fixes or cheaper replacement info contributed by Pinoy SRX owners... this is constantly being updated in the other website
tire - ask bluesteel.. he mentioned a low price for race-ridden SRX Japanese tires ...from a store in Pasig area but no other details; Makilingrider gets duro tires at almost P4000 in caloocan sales
front brake pads- none has commented
clutch line - none
battery, for monoshock model - price i (rolodge) got mine is 1200 (that one is for my twin shock version which is posted in past messages..) ... brand is "new power" YB5L-BS 12v5ah.... check my other posted messages; makilingrider says he uses 12N5-3B 12v10ah
K&N High Flow Air Filter YAMAHA SRX600 1986 - none has commented
standard air filter- still looking for my future use .. makilingrider has commented that he knows a guy in caloocan sales who can help me find an OEM but still have not tried to follow up on it. he suggested using scotchbrite... bamba says you might have to recheck plugs and tuning ... gary says wrap scotchbrite with screen to make sure no fibers get sucked by carbs
oil filter - price range in the local scene ranges from 180 (pasigline) to 280 (caloocan sales) pesos says gary... would like to know hard / concrete details on this
fork oil seal- none has commented
choke cable- maybe ask Gary or anyone here ... im not sure i can recall if he used automobile handbrake cables here.. pls ask him
clutch cable- maybe ask Gary or anyone here ... im not sure if he once used japanese branded mountainbike brake cables
speedo cable - P175 for entire speedocable assembly for yamaha jog3 scooter was mentioned by rolodge .. fits without mods .. tjm mentioned a 100 pesos taiwan generic speedocable but no other details...
tacho cable -bossgen says he uses inner wire from kawasaki barako tachocable in his monoshock srx .... P150 lang daw ... ask makilingrider if it is also compatible with the twinshock versions
auto decompression cable - rolodge shared that the italian vespa cable has the same nipple but needs to be cut on the other end to proper lenght. He learned this from Tim where he got his present srx..... recycle the original housing please.... don't throw them away
NGK iridium spark plug- none has commented
original SRX side mirror - none has commented
chain guard/slider- mwss pipe according to bleusteel and sangkalan according to bamba ... they are serious and not joking ... but they definitely are smiling coz of the huge savings ... LOL; Makilingrider mentions you can also have your SRX wear "tsinelas" or slippers; or the better alternative is use the hard rubber compounds used by shops that customize "engine supports" and "bushings"... that would definitely be a more professional looking DIY
std chain -readily available at caloocan sales says Bong of Los Banos
sprockets- none has commented
swing arm - makilingrider mentions FZR alloy swing arms are compatible with the 80's srx models, not sure what year model
horn-none has commented
ignition coil- none has commented
cdi - makilingrider has one for anyone who might need it..... Mr Jun Mendoza is trying to design one.. prototype still on the soldering table as of time of posting
rectifier- rolodge mentions GM1 tagged at P1800; makilingrider mentions a taiwan RR for less than 400pesos at caloocan sales
carburator gasket - gary mentions replacing the largest srx carb gasket with gasket for a honda pantra
speedo drive -none has commented
monoshock fuel tank-none has commented
brake lever- rolodge got one for P 397 at Norkis mandaluyong
rear shock- bamba is selling nicetech rear shocks at the classified section
spark plugs - use at least NGK DPR7EA-9 ... the los banos group does not recommend champion or bosch.. they have no experience on irridium plugs-anyone used that? just reply...
front wheel bearings -none has commented
rear wheel bearings - none has commented
wheels- the wheels with the disk/rotors, wide rim and tires (kahit 160mm rear) of Yamaha FZR maybe 88-92 models pwede sa srx .. you can also see it in the most recent video posted in the closed thread... yung nakakabit sa yellow or mustard colored na srx... mukhang uso ang pakapalan ng mukha .. este ng gulong sa los banos laguna!.. let us wait for the FZR rear wheel convertion of makilingrider's srx!.. while Bong is planning a seat and tail end modification for his classic 80's srx frame!
full gasket set-none has commented
fuel cap with keys- renar mentions bleusteel telling him that the motorstar z200 fuel cap may be compatible
low friction suspension fluid- makilingrider has commented that castrol fork oil or ATF fluid can be used
steering head bearings set -none has commented
chrome foot rests -none has commented
footrest assembly - Laguna group mentions that the footpegs can be replaced by those from Yamaha RD350 .. you can see that in the most recent video i posted ... bleusteel uses the rear footrest from a suzuki raider for his monoshock version
custom seats - ask bleusteel and renar .. they mentioned a store in the Tikling Antipolo area ... no details yet; no details from scoober yet
bar ends - compatible with those for
YAMAHA FZR600 / 1000
SRX/
SRK /
XJ/
XJR /
YZF FZ/
RI/
TDM
srx repair manual in pdf format - thanks to rockjock
tools - gary mentions tools including spark plug remover and alligator stands as srx bike lift
Last reminders:
Check the bike's papers with LTO before buying it.. unless legit papers does not interest you
Attend a formal bigbike rider course .... even if you are an experienced biker, you might pick up a thing or two... that may save your life or someone else's life one day... there were more Pinoys who bought bikes last year compared to the year before that partly coz of traffic and rising fuel prices .. so you have more bikes on the road... more vehicles to avoid colliding with nowadays.. better sharpen your riding skills some more....
Always share any srx news/info in any of our srx threads ...
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March 11th, 2007 04:17 AM #6
I have friends who are racing their bikes... I myself raced but VW which are also Aircooled. In my experience - Iridium is actually a very good spark plug. It's expensive but you never have to replace them again for as long as your bike lives.
A Bosch Blaster Ignition coil is a good match for this.
By the way...
what is the torque rating of the average SRX engine? any idea?
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March 11th, 2007 04:00 PM #7thanks for the inputs.. answered your question through PM
active srx threads in mcp
http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com...108#post995108
http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com...ad.php?t=27038 closed thread
http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com...ad.php?t=29687
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February 6th, 2010 11:34 PM #9
Not a fan of Yamaha SRX but this bike is less maintanace and not to Expensive can afford by fellow bikers good to own than the underbone . I got an FZR 250RR Twin cam 16V engine inline four. and a 4 barrel Mikuni Carburator . This is my first bike and use it on a Batangas Racing Circuit. Good as a biginners bike like the SRX.
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January 17th, 2011 04:22 PM #10mga sir san b mganadang magpaayos ng srx400 ko twin shocks, please advice.