House bill banning motorcycles

**actor21** · February 6th, 2009 12:15 PM

mag cherry QQ nalang hehehehe...honestly i was also a biker before, nag give up lang ako kase sirain ang lintek nabili kong Brand new na Sym Jet Euro X e, kaya nag kotse na ako...

yan din ang angal ko sa karamihan sa mga nagmomotor walang kadesiplina desiplina e...ako nung nagmomotor ako napaka ingat ko kase alam ko wala ako laban pag na sagi ako ng four wheels...

pero sana wag naman igeneralize..kase madaming nakamotor na matitino din naman sa kalsada..what would happen sa public transport natin kung lahat mag cocommute diba?

mas strict rules at pagpapatupad yun ang dapat gawin..not ban them..pero sometimes to be honest pag me na eencounter ako na balasubas sa kalsadang biker...gusto ko na din sila iban sa streets...

pero alam nating hindi tama na lahatin sila...

**testament11** · February 6th, 2009 02:07 PM

tama ka bro, hindi naman dapat lahatin. kasi kung ako magkakaroon ng motor, eh kawawa naman yung mga matitinong motor owners.

pero hindi ba ang motor eh considered as 1 vehicle? so dapat, rules ng mga 4 wheels eh applied din sa 2 wheels, tama ba ko?

**kompressor** · February 9th, 2009 04:15 AM

What is the root cause of undisciplined drivers? Tolerance! If the authorities do their job in implementing the existing law, there really is no need to create new ones.

Try pulling those undisciplined drivers out of the country and let them drive in the US. Siguradong titino rin yan coz mahigpit ang implementation ng batas. Ibalik mo sa pinas and they'll be back in their old ways. Why? Coz they know they can get away with it. Isang tupi lang ng P200 pag may huli and they're again scot free.

Why give the ax to the riding community when it should be the law enforcers who deserve it? Wala kasing inisip yung mga tatamad-tamad sa gubyerno kungdi mangurakot. From the EURO generals down to the common kotong cop. And don't give me the excuse na there are more good cops that the rotten apples coz they also have a responsibility of policing themselves. Those good cops are just too chicken when it comes to cleaning their own ranks. Camaraderie? B*llsh*t!

**ab_initio** · February 9th, 2009 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Gen. Miting

yup tama ang iban na lang yun mga naka maliit na motor or kung hindi i-ban dapat dumaan sa psychology test parang sa gun acquisition or isa pang makeshift test na pagkakaperahan ng pulitiko, govt. employees.

yun mga naka-big bike wag na, sigurado naman may tsikot mga yun. saka responsable naman yun mga naka-big bike kasi nakabili sila ng mahal na motor.

ang mahirap talaga yun mga kababayan natin na asal jeepney driver or puv driver, puro katwiran mahirap sila. sawang-sawang na ako kakaparinig ng ganyan.

dapat high standards ang pinaa-iiral, kung wala ka nun. wala kang karapatan sa kalsada kasi wala kang respeto sa ibang tao or ethics

i think the problem here isn't really on whether juan dela cruz is riding a big bike or the banned less than 400 cc motorcycle. corruption studies based on statistics show that when there is too much regulation on every activity of juan dela cruz, it furnishes pedro rodriguez with much leeway wherein he can abuse his discretion. when discretion is abused and pedro has the sole authority to regulate an activity and has the final say on how to implement a certain simple guideline, then there is a good breeding place for corruption.

what i am saying is, why do we need to make a distinction when there ought to be none?

on the issue of exempting the big bike riders on the sole premise that they also have cars, "they are responsible because they were able to buy those expensive harleys", is a bit misplaced. to me, it appears that those who earn less and can't afford to buy big bikes are unruly just because they are poor? may mga mayayaman din naman na walang breeding ah! may mga mayayaman din naman na mamamatay tao...ang punto de vista ko lang po dito, kapag ganyan ang magiging panuntunan natin, napaka multiple standards po and it's not even high po. it's like telling every juan dela cruz na, dude, dahil poor ka, wala kang karapatan sa kalsada...it's rubbing salt onto his gaping wound po. sana hindi ganun. dahil maraming mga mahihirap na lumalaban dahil may mga mayayaman na powerful na abusado po. kasi kapag ganun ang pagtingin natin sa mahihirap, ano pa ang maging silbi natin when we have the capacity to give back to the society who have welcome us with kindness for countless times and that same society has been remised with the poor. sana po, in our own little way we can help tilt the edge of the scale to somehow maintain a social equilibrium. just my sentimental two cents po.

**roberto_minosa** · February 9th, 2009 08:49 PM

Hey guys...

Nakita nyo yung thread tungkol sa B.O.S.S. (BMW Motorrad club) street racing??? May nasagasaan sa Isabela...mind you, BMW mga bike nila.

**roberto_minosa** · February 11th, 2009 07:45 AM

Hear hear.

Been a rider myself. I quit for my own good. Nothing can make a motorcycle safe to ride. Well, unless you own a private highway with a very smooth pavement and with no other vehicles. And if you are conscious of the dangers of riding a motorcycle.

Not even owning a big bike can prevent a rider from being stupid! I see 400cc, and mostly 600cc-up bikes along the NLEX going all over the place. And I mean through every lane...I hope they die soon to lessen traffic hazards.

"Pag nakasakay ka sa motor, isang paa mo nakaapak sa hukay." - experienced riders

ps Ginigitgit ko din mga MC rider pag alam kong wala sila sa lugar. Pag nasagasaan kasi sila ako pa ang may kasalanan.

**snatchmeister** · February 19th, 2009 03:59 PM

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Not even owning a big bike can prevent a rider from being stupid! I see 400cc, and mostly 600cc-up bikes along the NLEX going all over the place. And I mean through every lane...I hope they die soon to lessen traffic hazards.
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bro, wag naman ganito...it's not good karma

...though i agree with you in some of the points you raised.

i'm not saying angel ako pag dating sa experience ko sa mga mc riders, sa tamang diskarte lang ako nag papa-pansin sa kanila

remember our cars are more bigger and powerful than most of these mc's...its a powerful statement when a 1000kg plus car is tailgating your motor at 30kms, then 40kms up to 60kms then 80kms along the open road and you don't know what to do, until you piss your self not knowing where to go next...or on another scenario suddenly the 1000kg plus car your motor just cut 1 minute ago suddenly cuts you off wedges you in between him and a truck or a smokey old diesel bus in traffick...trust me that mc rider won't cut your car off again during your travels

oops sorry did i say bad karma...

**Demongers** · May 2nd, 2009 02:57 PM

I've been riding my GS 850G on Southern California freeways since 1981 and have only seen one motorcyclist crash and that was due to his front flat tire. That's not to say I haven't seen any stupid motorcyclists here, but we've never had a lawmaker try to ban motorcycles from the freeways.

I've read all the replies to this thread and it seems to me that you have a lot of lousy motorcycle riders there, and an equal, if not greater number of terrible cage drivers.

When my wife and I move there by the end of 2010, I plan on buying a big motorcycle since I've read the taxes to import mine would be prohibitive, but I don't think I want to ride or live around Manila after reading the replies here...some of you want to see motorcyclists DIE! So please advise me on the best area to live for enjoyable and relaxed motorcycling; Cavite, or La Union? I do like to ride fast, but I don't want to have an angry cage driver trying to kill me!

Thanks.

**118Alpha** · May 2nd, 2009 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by roberto_minosa

Hear hear.

Been a rider myself. I quit for my own good. Nothing can make a motorcycle safe to ride. Well, unless you own a private highway with a very smooth pavement and with no other vehicles. And if you are conscious of the dangers of riding a motorcycle.

Not even owning a big bike can prevent a rider from being stupid! I see 400cc, and mostly 600cc-up bikes along the NLEX going all over the place. And I mean through every lane...I hope they die soon to lessen traffic hazards.

"Pag nakasakay ka sa motor, isang paa mo nakaapak sa hukay." - experienced riders

ps Ginigitgit ko din mga MC rider pag alam kong wala sila sa lugar. Pag nasagasaan kasi sila ako pa ang may kasalanan.

OT : Wow Sir, gawain mo ba talaga yan? Cool head lang if you are driving because not all the time eh kasalanan ng nagmomotor ang gumitgit. Some times kailangan mo talagang gawin ang ang option na yan lalo na pag naka sunod ka sa ibang Cars na hindi nakikita ang nagmomotor o talagang walang pakialam sa nakamotor dahil maliit. These things happen. Sana hindi kayo maka pagdrive sa probinsya namin baka kasi ako ang magitgit mo....patay ako.

On topic. Laws regarding motorcycle use is not just an easy thing to impose here in the Phil. It may not apply to other highly urbanized cities Highways. One thing for sure....If the existing laws are imposed properly, no new laws will be needed. Peace

**ab_initio** · May 3rd, 2009 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Demongers

So please advise me on the best area to live for enjoyable and relaxed motorcycling; Cavite, or La Union? I do like to ride fast, but I don't want to have an angry cage driver trying to kill me!

Thanks.

if youre open to go to the visayas and mindanao, Sir, i suggest:

Dumaguete, the place to be...

and, Siargao in Mindanao...