Mitsubishi Xforce

[dr. d]

madami pa din kasing "iwas" sa hybrid because of the "rumored cost" ng battery replacement

in my opinion,
it's not a rumor. the battery really costs a lot! and i do not envision it costing as a 2SM in the near future.

i have a colleague who drives a hybrid. sabi niya,
"i bought this for the coding advantage. the fuel savings will probably go to the battery replacement bill a few years from now."

[ice15]

in my opinion,
it's not a rumor. the battery really costs a lot! and i do not envision it costing as a 2SM in the near future.

i have a colleague who drives a hybrid. sabi niya,
"i bought this for the coding advantage. the fuel savings will probably go to the battery replacement bill a few years from now."

"rumor" kasi I personally haven't met anyone who actually replaced it.
I have relatives who know people in the US with 15 year old hybrids and battery was never replaced.

unlike Honda's CVT... I personally met someone sa Honda Makati who paid 300K+ to have his CVT replaced.

[dr. d]

"rumor" kasi I personally haven't met anyone who actually replaced it.
I have relatives who know people in the US with 15 year old hybrids and battery was never replaced.

unlike Honda's CVT... I personally met someone sa Honda Makati who paid 300K+ to have his CVT replaced.

yes, the battery cost is really high.
it is probably the "when" and not the "how much", that is bothersome to some.
colleagues who purchased one, confessed "i did not have transportation cost savings in mind, when i bought it. i bought it for coding freedom."

[ice15]

i bought it for coding freedom."

agree... I guess its more expensive to buy and maintain a 2nd car.

[dr. d]

agree... I guess its more expensive to buy and maintain a 2nd car.

i was mulling over getting one myself, when wifey shot it down with, "why? you already have an altis and a wigo, not to mention that innova..."
sigh.

[ice15]

i was mulling over getting one myself, when wifey shot it down with, "why? you already have an altis and a wigo, not to mention that innova..."
sigh.

its easier to buy a motorbike...
wala din coding.
only issue I have is the lack of cup holders...

[dr. d]

its easier to buy a motorbike...
wala din coding.
only issue I have is the lack of cup holders...

a couple of my colleagues do commute regularly using two-wheelers. they say it saves them more than 50% of their travel time.
they both ride italian makes. one's a scooter, the other is a proper macho bike.

moi? it's difficult to doze off on a two-wheeler. heh heh.

[Yatta]

in my opinion,
it's not a rumor. the battery really costs a lot! and i do not envision it costing as a 2SM in the near future.

i have a colleague who drives a hybrid. sabi niya,
"i bought this for the coding advantage. the fuel savings will probably go to the battery replacement bill a few years from now."

Seems people also have this misconception that the battery needs to be replaced every 2-3 years like an ICE? My Japanese professor in 2013 still daily drove a first generation Prius. He says the (main) battery is still stock from 1998.

[dr. d]

Seems people also have this misconception that the battery needs to be replaced every 2-3 years like an ICE? My Japanese professor in 2013 still daily drove a first generation Prius. He says the (main) battery is still stock from 1998.

well, using simple calculation and bold assumptions,

if toyota warranties its hybrid car battery to 8 years,
and if i drive 1,000 km a month and spend 6000 bucks a month for my ICE, and i save half of that or 3000 bucks a month for gas money using the hybrid,
that's 36,000 bucks a year x 8 years = 288,000 bucks in fuel savings in eight years.
we can then interpolate the brake-even year, where total fuel savings equals cost or hybrid battery replacement. beyond that year, if we still own the car, it's pure profit.... until it's time to replace the hybrid battery again...

so i wonder,
how's the sale of hybrids or EVs gonna be...?
will it be... "newly replaced battery"... ?

i do not know what toyota phils' current battery warranty for its hybrid, is. medyo confusing si google kasi.

[H1Tman]

From Toyota website:

In case you need another reason to go Hybrid Electric, all Toyota HEVs come with an 8-year* battery and 3-year** vehicle warranty. Enjoy your very own Hybrid Electric Vehicle for even longer with proper regular maintenance.

*or 200,000kms, whichever comes first

**or 100,000kms, whichever comes first


But it also says the battery is expected to last the lifetime of the car.