Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[ClaNker]

Could be. I saw some comments about him in the forums and some say that this person knows his stuff.

I hate what MMPC is doing, I mean DTI hearing lang yan and you want to dig your own grave.

[car_fan]

I hate what MMPC is doing, I mean DTI hearing lang yan and you want to dig your own grave.

True! Or probably, mmpc did not bring any engineers with them to counter whatever argument this jake brings to the table. Still, a bad move from Mmpc.

[car_fan]

Just checked FB and this jake seems to be part or maybe owner of Central Diesel (Philippines). They have an FB page and from the looks of it, seems to be a reputable shop.

[Junesp111]

Pag nag mo moist ang ECU box, nag loloko na!. Joke.

But, I was able to read a portion of the previous post related to other brand having SUA, and they involved NASA as the external party to check the code line by line and found nothing wrong. Hope they will do that as well on Mitsu, though not NASA but credible 3rd party organization, seems it will not be solved by power point presentation / simulation / explanation.

From sir Niky post:

Toyotas sensors are set at different voltages. One runs from 0.5 to 4.5V. The other from 1 to 5V. They will always be reading different voltages through the range of motion of the pedal.

Some manufacturers use reversed sensors... one reading 0-5V, the other reading 5-0V as the pedal is run through its range of motion.

Base on this 2 sensors reading opposite each other di pwede yung sensor ang dahilan ng SUA kasi pag nag fail one of the sensor yung ECU will not response, kailangan may movement yung voltage sa dalawang signal wire ng accelarator pedal.

Example how the engine interpretes the signal:

Senor A = 0.5 volts , Sensor B=4.5 volts - Engine running Idle
Senor A = 4.5 volts , Sensor B=0.5 volts - Engine running full throttle
Senor A = 2.5 volts , Sensor B=2.5 volts - Engine running half throttle

Kung Firmware or program sa ECU, dapat marami yung apectado na montero.

Pero dito sa diagnosis procedure, it mention that to check the connector and repair. pag may defect yung connector possible result is total ground or partial ground. yung distance ng signal wires, ground and 5 volts is more or less 5 mm inside the connector pag nag ka fault yung connector, for example yung connector has loss connection, it will generate heat to melt the plastic or even metal.

Ok lng pag yung dalawang signal wire na totally ground sa 5 volts or ground the ecu will not response as per sir niky post, pero pag yung signal wires is partially ground to 5 volts, this 2 signal wire will read only 2 - 3.5 volts then the ecu will interprete it that there is a movement of voltage betwween 2 signal wire. kaya yung engine will have an RPM of 3K to 5K base on the voltage reading. kaya 1 of victim say that bigla lang umakyat yung RPM to 3K or 4K.

partial ground is possible dahil pag nag melt yung plastic it will create a small resistance between contact.

pero it needs to be prove at posible mangyari ito.

[ClaNker]

True! Or probably, mmpc did not bring any engineers with them to counter whatever argument this jake brings to the table. Still, a bad move from Mmpc.

Indeed.

Seriously DTI's one resource mech engineer claims carwash. Pwede na sana kung sinabi nyang engine wash.

The best MMPC got is their lawyer. I'm all for debunking this SUA incident as pure driver error but no shift-interlock and lawyer? Screw you MMPC let's have your third party expert examine the 30 units subject to buy back.

[dhisky]

Mitsubishi lang ba ang walang shift lock sa brake from "P"?

Dapat talag it's a "must" na may brake lock from P and N.

Safety > Convenience

[javacardph]

Ano say nyo dito?

https://www.facebook.com/howell.tan....4750646438736/

This is the best info I've seen regarding SUA. It's reproducible. Not requiring to step on brakes to shift from P is dangerous!

[javacardph]

Mitsubishi lang ba ang walang shift lock sa brake from "P"?

Dapat talag it's a "must" na may brake lock from P and N.

Safety > Convenience

Ok lang di tapakan ang brake to shift to D from N. Pero from P, kailangan talaga

[dhisky]

Ok lang di tapakan ang brake to shift to D from N. Pero from P, kailangan talaga

base on the video

https://www.facebook.com/howell.tan....4750646438736/

Montero doesn't require you to step on brake to move from P to X gears. It's a "must" sana kahit from N to X gears.

So Mitsubishi nga lang ba particularly Montero ang pwedeng gawin yan?

I'm not an expert, curious lang.

[dhisky]

What will happen if you're moving 100kph and then your 7 year old kid or your crazy girlfriend beside you shift it to R?

May automatic lock kaya when you're moving in a certain speed?