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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Deadening the doors would yield minimal effect in minimizing road noise. Talaga they're just to reflect back the vibrations caused by the midbass for better sound reproduction.

    If deadening: Floor and wheel wells have the best impact on road noise. The roof can also be deadened to reduce wind noise.

    All in all, if you deaden the whole car, it'll add around 100kg more so deaden carefully so not to affect fuel consumption drastically. The only people who really deaden their whole car are those who is in pursuit of better car audio.
    This is a very useful information... Thanks a lot sir...

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    #502
    Quote Originally Posted by eccm View Post
    I recently upgraded my gtv's audio system at tsikot.com shop in taguig, wth the help of jedi and his installer jon. Iam satisfied with the outcome at a very reasonable price. thanks dude...
    Hi eccm, inquire ko lang if how reasonable is the price of the upgrade and if what was done on your unit. Winterpine (in amcar sta rosa, laguna) cannot install the avt subs with built in ampli in my unit due to some other items needed to install it that they still donot have, for almost two months now. Hope you can pm me on this. Thanks/

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    #503
    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Deadening the doors would yield minimal effect in minimizing road noise. Talaga they're just to reflect back the vibrations caused by the midbass for better sound reproduction.

    If deadening: Floor and wheel wells have the best impact on road noise. The roof can also be deadened to reduce wind noise.

    All in all, if you deaden the whole car, it'll add around 100kg more so deaden carefully so not to affect fuel consumption drastically. The only people who really deaden their whole car are those who is in pursuit of better car audio.
    wow! 100kgs? what are the mats made of, gold? how much would it cost to deaden a whole monty? doesn't sound too practical for a daily driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arjay18 View Post
    wow! 100kgs? what are the mats made of, gold? how much would it cost to deaden a whole monty? doesn't sound too practical for a daily driver.
    Most deadeners are primarily composed of butyl. You wouldn't like asphalt since mangangamoy yan on a hot day (especially pag nasa Pinas ka pa). Madaming kinds, liquid deadeners, etc. but most of the deadeners you find in the market is of the butyl kind -- Dynamat, STP, Stinger Roadkill, etc. Technically speaking, these are called CLD (Constrained Layer Dampers) and traditionally used to control panel resonance (hence for car audio purposes sila normally). A cheaper but less effective alternative are those foam mats. Ito mga Acoustimats. They're roughly half the price of a STP Silver butyl lining.

    That 100kg is an approximate weight added on to a fully deadened sedan using those butyl mats. And that's not even overkill. Some car audio purists even use mass loaded vinyls (MLVs) on their vehicles just to isolate noise. More mass = less noise penetration.. very simple science. It's like using a thick door versus a thin door in isolating your room from outside noise. How heavy are MLVs? They're like a substitute for lead one of the most dense elements in our Table of Elements.. Bwahaha..

    If you're not planing on foray into car audio, just those foam mats from Acoustimats would suffice. These are often called OEM mats since pagbinaklas mo door mo, you'll probably see them slotted inside your doors.

    Acoustimats is around 800php per sheet ata.. you could get them 500php kung may kilala ka though (trading section of different forums). Most doors need 2 layers/sheets to cover the "front and back". Personally, got no idea how much whole car deadening using them would cost.

    EDIT: Is it practical for a daily driver? No.
    Last edited by jhnkvn; May 20th, 2011 at 10:10 PM.

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    BTW, Mickeys autosound already has cables for the headrest monitors....plan to have my audio setup installed by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjreyesmd View Post
    BTW, Mickeys autosound already has cables for the headrest monitors....plan to have my audio setup installed by them.
    Actually, madami nagpapagawa na Monty sa kanila Mickeys. Just this Wednesday merong lady nagpapakabit ng mga headrest monitors if I remember correctly. Coding pa siya

    Regular ako sa kanila eh. Bwahaha..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Actually, madami nagpapagawa na Monty sa kanila Mickeys. Just this Wednesday merong lady nagpapakabit ng mga headrest monitors if I remember correctly. Coding pa siya

    Regular ako sa kanila eh. Bwahaha..
    sir 10K lang budget ko for separates and installation nya? may xplod na ako na ampli. pasok ba and 10k na budget ko kay mickeys? or mga high end lang sila?

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    #508
    Quote Originally Posted by eccm View Post
    I changed all the speakers with A/D/S and also the seps ads, with lighting sab amps. Iam very satisfied with improvement on the quality of the sounds.
    how much sir inabot ng sound enhancements mo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by agoonys View Post
    sir 10K lang budget ko for separates and installation nya? may xplod na ako na ampli. pasok ba and 10k na budget ko kay mickeys? or mga high end lang sila?
    I think Mickey's has a variety of seps to fit your budget, but remember you still have to add wirings, the cable for the avt hu to install the sub and of course the seps. decent wiring kits would go for 4k minimum. May mga generic at 2.5k

    If the budget na 10k is only for the seps then you have a lot of choices like morel, focal, hertz, etc

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    Personally, I would recommend Banawe for budget meal setups since most of them offer free installation and stuff. Not to mention alot of the shops there offer "packages" if you're off to a fresh start. But if you're after quality work, Mickeys are really worth the buck. Yun leatherette na ginagamit nila is soft.. it's the expensive one daw according to Rocky (yun owner ng Mach2Audio just a few blocks away) na pagmay shipment, agawan mga dealers sa material.

    For the seps, if you're budget is from 8,000-10,000php: I would recommend just two: Morel Tempo 6 and Focal's entry-level separates, 165A1 Access. But Mickeys have sort of "premium" pricing. Although you can haggle the price, masmababa parin sa Banawe (due to lots of competing shops). Problema with Banawe is that: pagwala ka alam, they would likely fool you.

    I'd suggest Candyshop sa Banawe. Look for Nogs, super mabait yun. In fact, wala sa mukha niya ang pagiging "boss" umpisa akala ko employee lang nga siya eh
    Last edited by jhnkvn; May 21st, 2011 at 01:54 PM.

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