US government shutdown - your thoughts?

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Yung nag shutdown na yung government, republicans try to talk to democrats to fund this and fund that but the Democrats outright rejected everything.

The Republicans don't want to fund anything.

As uls said... Republicans hate spending on welfare. They hate spending on education. They hate spending on social services. Republicans don't give a muck about the common people. They think the people are on their side on Obamacare because people will have to pay for it themselves.

All Republicans care about funding is subsidies to their pet industries and industrial partners. Period. That's the way it has always been.

Not that the Democrats don't have their own pets, mind you. And some lobbyists have both parties in their pockets.

But Obamacare is the heart and soul of the shutdown...

The Tea Party is the heart and soul of the shutdown. Obamacare is just a rallying cry for them to try to get the public on their side.

And same way with a republican president. Democrats will always block opposing party.

Both recent times the government has shut down, it was always a Republican house trying to bully a Democratic president. I recall there was an infographic before showing the Red:Blue ratio of Congress over the years. Some of the most troubling times in terms of strife between the executive and the legislative branch have been with a Democratic President and a Republican majority.

This is because Republicans like to fight.

It's not as if Republicans are innocent of largesses. The housing bubble that led to the subprime collapse was caused by both Bush and Clinton... both enacted socialist programs that made it easier for poor people to own homes and get loans.

Even the unpopular automotive bailouts that the Republicans like to blame on Obama... THAT was proposed by Bush. And also supported by the Republican candidate at the time.

However much they like to make noise and pretend they oppose needless spending, the Republicans are all for it if the "right" people benefit.

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The Democrats, on the other hand, are going to spend the government into the ground. Expanding welfare only works if you have a growing economy. The US either has to shrink or save. Neither party can do that, really. The Dems will spend on the poor. The Republicans will spend on the rich, who will then invest their money in China and Mexico.