US government shutdown - your thoughts?

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I understand that it's a law. This is my opinion on the matter that there needs to be compromise. With niky's example, there should be compromise that both owner would agree on. It's irresponsible to say it's the presidents way or nothing.

If you don't agree with me, it's fine. BUT TELLING ME IM A TROLL BECAUSE I DONT AGREE WITH YOU, well...

Edit: with niky's example kasi pwede compromise on what the billboard would look like and it's function. In my opinion, it can be resolved as long as no one is saying na "yung gusto ko lang masusunod or continue tayo sa shut down".

Please don't be detoured by the topic. It's just personal na yung attack and I don't like that. Accept my humble apologies on the matter.

O ya, my apologies to roninblade na din. Please carry on with the topic.

[greatauror28]

So, what's the real deal with Obamacare?

:popcorn:

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why Republicans hate Obamacare

AT THE CORE IS IDEOLOGY

Liberals believe the government should solve national problems (like healthcare for every American)

Conservatives see it as government intrusion into the lives of Americans

Liberals: the govt should take care of everyone

Conservatives: if you can't afford it too bad you

[K.I.L.L.]

Para maintindihan mo na.

You and I, we are part owners of a restaurant.

Every week, we agree on a marketing budget for food.

Last month, we argued over the purchase of an automated billboard for the front of the restaurant. An expense to be paid for out of the savings account (not the checking account used for marketing). This will cost a lot and impact the bottomline, and it will make for extra work for the employees, who have to type out the menu and promotions, clean it, etcetera. Some employees don't want it. Some like the idea.

You hated it. But at a meeting of partners you're outvoted three to one.

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You're still pissed. So you say that if we don't give up the billboard, you will not sign the checks for marketing. And all checks need the signatures of all partners.

You'll sign the checks if we sell the billboard. You'll sign the checks if we stop running the billboard, so the electricity cost won't add to our expenses. You'll sign the checks if we don't force employees to man the billboard teleprompter console.

The other partners do not agree. We've gone through the trouble of starting it, the bills have to be paid to the supplier, and the billboard is there. You don't fricking care. Your way or the highway.

Walang kinalaman ang billboard sa food budget. It doesn't come from the marketing fund. There's no reason to even talk about it when working out the week's marketing.

That's what the Tea Party is doing.

Don't get what you want, bring the whole thing burning down in blackmail.

Get it now?

It's not whether they're right or wrong about Obamacare. I personally don't like compulsory insurance. People should be free to choose. It's about whether they're right to shut down the US Government and imperil the world economy just to get one concession they could work out themselves after winning the next election.

Capiche?

Very good analogy man. Well said. It makes the whole matter easy to understand.

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Edit: with niky's example kasi pwede compromise on what the billboard would look like and it's function. In my opinion, it can be resolved as long as no one is saying na "yung gusto ko lang masusunod or continue tayo sa shut down".

but you hate the electronic billboard

you wanna go back to the non-electronic billboard but the co-owners have voted for it na

so you're willing to shut down the resto coz of the billboard issue

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"yung gusto ko lang masusunod or continue tayo sa shut down".

That's basically what the Republicans were doing.




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[roninblade]

I understand that it's a law. This is my opinion on the matter that there needs to be compromise. With niky's example, there should be compromise that both owner would agree on. It's irresponsible to say it's the presidents way or nothing.

If you don't agree with me, it's fine. BUT TELLING ME IM A TROLL BECAUSE I DONT AGREE WITH YOU, well...

Edit: with niky's example kasi pwede compromise on what the billboard would look like and it's function. In my opinion, it can be resolved as long as no one is saying na "yung gusto ko lang masusunod or continue tayo sa shut down".

Please don't be detoured by the topic. It's just personal na yung attack and I don't like that. Accept my humble apologies on the matter.

O ya, my apologies to roninblade na din. Please carry on with the topic.

Heh, dude no apologies required. I just thought you're trolling not because you have a different opinion, but because you don't acknowledge that it already is passed and should have full funding. You just kept saying the republicans want to compromise, that they want to meet the democrats in the middle, that they are acting rationally.

Here's a question... Do you agree that there are proper procedures in place in the government? I'm gonna take your answer as a yes since you seem to be a rational person. Here's the crux of the matter, the budget is not the proper place/procedure to discuss and compromise in a law's implementation. Do you understand the point? The GOP going against procedure created this stalemate. The implementation should not be an issue at this point. They instead hijacked the whole budget and held the entire country hostage. I'm sure the democrats will compromise, but the GOP should've done it in the proper forum. The budget should just be a discussion of funding not of doing test trial implementations.

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Republican house leader recently agreed on a short term deal to fund government. The Irony of the shutdown is that instead of the government "shrinking", it actually became bigger.

They say they can't offer any services from parks and federal owned lands, yet they could deploy guards to lock them down and even drive homeowners out of their properties...

Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) -- The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals. They say they're being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land.

Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They've been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn't an option.

The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they've owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out.

"I had to go to town today and buy Ralph undershirts and jeans because I forgot his pants," Joyce Spencer told Action News.

The Stewart's Point home sits on federal land, so even though the Spencers own their cabin outright, they're not allowed in until the government reopens.

Park officials said property owners can visit only to retrieve belongings; they sent Action News a statement which reads in part, "Unfortunately overnight stays are not permitted until a budget is passed and the park can reopen."

Lake Mead property owners forced out until shutdown ends - www.ktnv.com

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Ok na, surrender na ko sa republicans to compromise (but this is still my standpoint).

My question is why did the Democrats gave exemptions to big companies and not extend the waiver to its citizens?

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but you hate the electronic billboard

you wanna go back to the non-electronic billboard but the co-owners have voted for it na

so you're willing to shut down the resto coz of the billboard issue

Yes I hate it but to restore peace with the partner I won't compromise on the matter even if I hate the idea. If he/she wants to to change the billboard altogether, I would compromise to keep the sa appearance but electronic. Maybe test it first or do a dry run and see what makes it good and what makes it bad.