Push Start Buttons are stupid

**makelovenotwar** · September 4th, 2017 03:00 PM

mga tanders talaga....

**minicarph** · September 4th, 2017 03:04 PM

there is an incident in FB involving a prestigious mall, bumaba yun guy nilagay niya yun clutch bag nya sa isang SUV, only to find out later in the mall's CCTV cam, na kamukha ng kulay ng SUV nya yun napaglagyan nyan ng clutch bag nya filled with personal cards, cash etc.

so pano nangyari yun, same code?

**boybi** · September 4th, 2017 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by minicarph

there is an incident in FB involving a prestigious mall, bumaba yun guy nilagay niya yun clutch bag nya sa isang SUV, only to find out later in the mall's CCTV cam, na kamukha ng kulay ng SUV nya yun napaglagyan nyan ng clutch bag nya filled with personal cards, cash etc.

so pano nangyari yun, same code?

Maybe the wrong car wasn't locked?

**yebo** · September 4th, 2017 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by minicarph

there is an incident in FB involving a prestigious mall, bumaba yun guy nilagay niya yun clutch bag nya sa isang SUV, only to find out later in the mall's CCTV cam, na kamukha ng kulay ng SUV nya yun napaglagyan nyan ng clutch bag nya filled with personal cards, cash etc.

so pano nangyari yun, same code?

pwedeng hindi naka-lock yung suv kaya nabuksan, baka masyadong matagal yung time setting for auto-lock.

kaya dapat laging may distinguishing mark ang kotse lalo na sa driver side. naalala ko nuon sa manaoag pilit binubuksan ng isang buong pamilya yung gs ko e magkatabi lang naman sasakyan namin kaya dapat kita nila na yung lights ng gs nila yung umiilaw pag pindot nila ng remote. halos mabali mga door handle e. di man lang napansin na iba ang side mirror at yung kanila e puno ng sticker sa harap.

**Vodka** · September 4th, 2017 03:32 PM

classic case of complexity vs convenience

but reliability goes down as complexity goes up

**dct** · September 4th, 2017 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by yebo

pwedeng hindi naka-lock yung suv kaya nabuksan, baka masyadong matagal yung time setting for auto-lock.

kaya dapat laging may distinguishing mark ang kotse lalo na sa driver side. naalala ko nuon sa manaoag pilit binubuksan ng isang buong pamilya yung gs ko e magkatabi lang naman sasakyan namin kaya dapat kita nila na yung lights ng gs nila yung umiilaw pag pindot nila ng remote. halos mabali mga door handle e. di man lang napansin na iba ang side mirror at yung kanila e puno ng sticker sa harap.

Ay kapag van laging ganun, kahit pa starex sasakyan mo tapos hiace sila, nagkakamali rin sila. Even super grandia sakanila at l300 sakin, pilit pa rin binubuksan ang l300. Hahaha

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**MXFX** · September 4th, 2017 05:13 PM

i have gone through keyless entry and iginition since 2007 with no issues. all our current cars except our spark have both keyless entry and push button (spark ev not keyless entry). i dont think this is stupid.

**cast_no_shadow** · September 4th, 2017 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by niky

Keyfobs for push-button cars usually have a back-up key to unlock the door, and a passive RFID chip that allows you to start the car by holding the keyfob close to the ignition button.

Yep, ganyan din instruction saken nung dealer.

To add pag nag prompt na lobat yung keyfob, palit battery na agad. May spare keyfob battery na din ako sa bag.

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**oj88** · September 4th, 2017 05:42 PM

It's the same argument over and over again....

... when carbureted engines moved to electronic ignition then eventually to having full engine control management using ECM/PCM computers
... when A/T became the de-facto standard for many new cars
... when 'Banawe St' technicians complained about the in-cabin or car body computer that controls the door locks, cabin lights, alarm, and a host of other non-engine related functions

Sa mga tanders na ayaw ng technology, the keyless system has matured enough to be as reliable as conventional keyed-ignition. The 'cons' being brought up are either one-off freak accidents or the user is just being oblivious of the technology and simply doesn't know how the thing works or doesn't understand its limitations.

**boybi** · September 4th, 2017 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by oj88

Sa mga tanders na ayaw ng technology, the keyless system has matured enough to be as reliable as conventional keyed-ignition. The 'cons' being brought up are either one-off freak accidents or the user is just being oblivious of the technology and simply doesn't know how the thing works or doesn't understand its limitations.

Tanders na pala si OB.