Are filipino values still applicable?

[gearhead]

Had a discussion with a friend and it seems that we are now heading for a smaller Global Village. More and more of us as well are finding ourselves in foreign soil. And we interact more with peopleof different nationalities.

Are concepts like "pakikisama", "utang na loob", etc. antiquated? Or have they become all the more relevant?

Some obviously take some beliefs like "utang na loob" to the hilt as well. Is this warranted? Should it be tempered to suit the times and conditions?

[Flagg]

AFAIK, pinaka-outstanding Pinoy "value" is pinakamagaling tayo manligaw.

Diba yung unang Ms. Universe, pinoy yung asawa?

[Altis6453]

I think the Filipino value of "utang na loob" is very Asian. It's still very much applicable. Just ask American or even European businessmen. They'll tell you that if you stick it out with an asian partner despite the bad times, they'll most likely do business with when things are going good because of this.

[uls]

i would not consider utang na loob as a value. Values are always positive.

Utang na loob is more a trait. Like "bahala na" and "ningas cogon"

the dark side of utang na loob:
Private individuals/companies fund politicians' election campaign, politicians win, politicians protect the interests of the individuals/companies who helped them win.

People use the utang na loob tactic to lay guilt trips on other people.

Like if a person moves ahead in life, those left behind use guilt trips as means of extortion.

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Be wary of people who are too eager to help. Down the line, they will use it against u

[Flagg]

...Be wary of people who are too eager to help. Down the line, they will use it against u

Hmm, better this than no help at all.

[MAXBUWAYA]

Be wary of people who are too eager to help. Down the line, they will use it against u

Yup very true.



I dont know if this is value

But Filipino Close Family Ties for me is not good for us.

Sa mga Barrio o depress area, sobrang close ng family hindi na umaalis ang anak sa puder ng magulang, yung magulang na nagtratrabaho habangbuhay hanggang mamatay. hehehehehe

Plus Mga kamaganak na mahilig mangutang pag siningil mo galit pa! hehehehe

[uls]

friendships and family ties that go bad usually have this as a root cause

when u owe someone a favor and u are unable to return the favor when asked, u just made urself a new enemy

[uls]

I dont know if this is value

But Filipino Close Family Ties for me is not good for us.

Sa mga Barrio o depress area, sobrang close ng family hindi na umaalis ang anak sa puder ng magulang, yung magulang na nagtratrabaho habangbuhay hanggang mamatay. hehehehehe

Plus Mga kamaganak na mahilig mangutang pag siningil mo galit pa! hehehehe

Filipino close family ties has good and bad sides.

Good side is people always have someone to depend on. That's why we have low suicide rate and high gross national happiness (GNH)

Bad side is it breeds laziness. Having people to depend on encourages sitting at home all day. One breadwinner for every 6 to 10 family members... plus extended family?

and yes... pag di ka nag pautang, magagalit sila sau

[Flagg]

friendships and family ties that go bad usually have this as a root cause

when u owe someone a favor and u are unable to return the favor when asked, u just made urself a new enemy

Agreed. That's why you must always maintain a position of strength (or the appearance of one). Para takot pa rin sila sa iyo, even if you can't do that little favor for them.

It's all just a little psy war, this world of ours.

Btw, OT na ata tayo.

[6shooter]

Baka dapat parang Kano po tayo para umasenso. Kung tutuusin ang mga bansa na tulad ng Amerika kung saan matira ang matibay ang umaasenso. Dito po kasi pati yung mga inutil nabubuhay. OT ba eto?

Tingin ko po na ang mga sinasabing "values" ay siya mismong nakakasira sa atin.

Pansin niyo po na mahirap din sa Pinoy ang pranka? Pag ganun ka parang ikaw pa ang masama? Eh nagsasabi ka lang ng totoo.