2014 Mazda 6

**jut703** · July 25th, 2012 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by parakitoJDM

ser mda, jut703, naunahan nyo lang ako...
dun na lang talaga sa pricing nagkakatalo...
pero ang may salarin ata nito ay Ford Phil. dba?
(bukod sa appreciation ng JPY)....

Salarin yung mokong na nagdecide na JDM units yung kukunin, tapos ipepresyo ng mataas kasi feeling niya porket Jap brand eh pwede magdictate ng presyo. Feeling Honda.

**dfopiso** · July 25th, 2012 04:49 PM

agree with mda and jut

**mda** · July 25th, 2012 04:55 PM

Mazda's getting a little late with the Specs/Quality + Pricing > Brand wars.

Honda has been feeling this pinch recently with the underwhelming CRV and Civic but Mazda PH doesn't seem like it's learning.

Hyundai (and, as of late, Kia) has been on the (positive) receiving end of this, where it used to be the laughingstock among car importers but have gone on a tear since then.

Toyota seems to be semi immune to this since since their products, while not cutting edge, aren't the worst in terms of specs and don't carry the usual premium other greedier manufacturers feel obliged to tack on. (They have the specs/quality/pricing AND brand, though not exactly perfect)

**dfopiso** · July 25th, 2012 04:57 PM

in case MPH will retain the current engine and tranny for the new Kodo body, would sales of Mazda 6 suffer?

**basti08** · July 25th, 2012 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by dfopiso

in case MPH will retain the current engine and tranny for the new Kodo body, would sales of Mazda 6 suffer?

I doubt it they will. The SkyActiv is more like a philosophy than just being a mere 'feature' of the car. It works on holistic manner, working in conjunction with engine, chassis and tranny.

**mda** · July 25th, 2012 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by dfopiso

in case MPH will retain the current engine and tranny for the new Kodo body, would sales of Mazda 6 suffer?

With a good price, good specs, and better FE from improvements elsewhere (body weight, aerodynamics, more efficient transmission), people will gloss over an older engine.

With a significantly higher price but inferior specs especially compared to the competition, good luck.

The ACV40 Camry (07-12) carried over it's engine from the previous body, but it sold really well. It's because the overall package was received well by the people buying them.

**basti08** · July 25th, 2012 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by mda

The ACV40 Camry (07-12) carried over it's engine from the previous body, but it sold really well. It's because the overall package was received well by the people buying them.

Actually, it was still same engine but then, it was massaged to produce more power. 170ps up from 157ps. And then, there was the then 'all new' 3.5L V6.

I still think if Mazda wants this all new 6 to sell, they gotta change the game. Bring in the SkyActiv-Diesel engine.

**basti08** · July 25th, 2012 05:31 PM

Here some more official 'teasers' of the all new Mazda 6

**dfopiso** · July 25th, 2012 05:31 PM

just by observing the Japanese trends lately -- Toyota (Altis, Camry ...), Honda (Civic), Mazda (3) -- most likely Mazda 6 will follow the same trend. sana MPH will realize the comment of basti above and for what the Koreans have done

**dfopiso** · July 25th, 2012 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by basti08

Actually, it was still same engine but then, it was massaged to produce more power. 170ps up from 157ps.

Somebody should check this "improved" power from the same engine. Remember the 9th gen Altis, if my memory serves me right, TMP "overstated" yata the power of its 1.8L engine

Sa 9th gen eh 145ps daw tapos sa 10th gen na 2.0L 145ps din

well I might be wrong here ... pardon sa TMP