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    To be fair, not only the admin is to blame re this.

    These are the same eggheads at HCPI who also thought the accord would be priced well at 2.2m

    Honda trying hard to fail and to go the way of Hyundai here in the PH despite having decent products.

    Edit: It's 2.3m pala hehe
    Last edited by mda; February 24th, 2020 at 12:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Honda trying hard to fail and to go the way of Hyundai here in the PH despite having decent products.
    ASEAN Made cars are not taxed as heavily as South Korean or Indian made cars.

    Plus the fact that we are only number 4 in vehicle sales (incl bikes) in the region (followed very closely by Vietnam)

    Mahirap talaga i-justify na may sarili tayong plant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    ASEAN Made cars are not taxed as heavily as South Korean or Indian made cars.

    Plus the fact that we are only number 4 in vehicle sales (incl bikes) in the region (followed very closely by Vietnam)

    Mahirap talaga i-justify na may sarili tayong plant.
    Just saying that the local HCPI office isn't exactly trying to sell more cars either.

    Parang ayaw nga nila magbenta eh. I think the ratio of 2020 Camries to Accords right now I've seen is like 50:1, and the '1' I spotted was entering a Yuchengco owned establishment...

    The only thing worth buying in their lineup from a PURELY value-for-money perspective right now (not everyone are enthusiasts like 90% of the people on this forum) seems to be the CRV and some City variants.
    Last edited by mda; February 24th, 2020 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    Just saying that the local HCPI office isn't exactly trying to sell more cars either.

    Parang ayaw nga nila magbenta eh. I think the ratio of 2020 Camries to Accords right now I've seen is like 50:1, and the '1' I spotted was entering a Yuchengco owned establishment...

    The only thing worth buying in their lineup from a PURELY value-for-money perspective right now (not everyone are enthusiasts like 90% of the people on this forum) seems to be the CRV and some City variants.
    Doesn't matter which direction the sales of the Accord goes. The midsize sedan market is so small.

    The bigger battles to win are the subcompact (City) and subcompact CUV/MPV (BRV) front. Those are Honda's best selling models. But even as the best selling models, it still makes more business sense to import from Thailand.

    That's all there is to it from a business perspective - where is the net production cost lower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Doesn't matter which direction the sales of the Accord goes. The midsize sedan market is so small.

    The bigger battles to win are the subcompact (City) and subcompact CUV/MPV (BRV) front. Those are Honda's best selling models. But even as the best selling models, it still makes more business sense to import from Thailand.

    That's all there is to it from a business perspective - where is the net production cost lower?

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    This is all true but I have a different but not entirely off tangent take on the issue:

    1. If you're going to half-ass the Accord to the point you won't sell more than a few units anyway, why bother spend money launching it, marketing it, wasting showroom space on it, stocking parts for it, training SAs and techs for it? May as well save the money and pull it out. Parang why bother nominally competing lang? Feeling ko kasi that's what H is doing eh.

    2. The brand needs a "flagship". Just as Honda has the CTR to showcase it's 'sportiness', it needs something upscale to carry the brand. Toyota has the 86/Supra for the 'sporty' while having the Alphard and the Camry as it's luxury showpieces (Lexus notwithstanding).

    I don't disagree with your points since they make perfect sense. Just think that some of their business decisions lately haven't been very smart.

    Don't get me wrong, I sound like an anti H fanboy at this point pero that can't be farther from the truth.
    Last edited by mda; February 25th, 2020 at 08:41 AM.

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