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    Quote Originally Posted by dongmilot View Post
    Isa pa mas gusto ko pa rin ang tahimik ng gas cars kaysa maingay na diesel.
    Not all diesels are noisy. Our Jetta TDI DSG offers refinement. The CRV diesels are not that noisy conpared to an Innova or any of these PPVs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dongmilot View Post
    Isa pa mas gusto ko pa rin ang tahimik ng gas cars kaysa maingay na diesel.
    "maingay" is relative. i conveniently forget about it everytime i gas up my diesel vehicle.
    noise and vibration are points always brought up, when arguing against diesels.

    in truth, there are so many more things i have to look out for when driving, that i have to consciously make an effort to note the noise and vibration of my (non-honda) diesel and convince myself to curse it.
    heh heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Unless you drive a turbocharged gas-fed car which can offer ample torque even at low rpms. However, moderation is a must if you want to maximise fuel efficiency in a turbocharged gas-fed car.




    One of our old rides was a 6th gen Accord and it had similar output figures as the CRV 2.0L. It never felt underpowered or lacking low end torque.


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    I used to drive a 2003 Honda Accord 2.0 Vti AT. It was the last model year before they launched an all new model. About the same power as 2.0S CRV. But it was also about 200-300kg lighter so it never felt underpowered.

    I also have a Ford Escape 2.3. It has 155hp and 206Nm torque (slightly higher than the CRV 2.0S’ 189Nm). Perfectly adequate power for everyday driving. However once laden w 5 adults and a weekend worth of luggage, it struggles on uphill gradients. We frequent Tagaytay Highlands and it is our only car that struggles to negotiate the long uphill climb from Midlands to Highlands. Give it a head of steam and a clear road ahead it can do it no problem; but encounter a slow moving vehicle and it grinds to a halt.

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    #3344
    Atras ka after? Or it still can go up at 10kph 1st gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehard View Post
    I used to drive a 2003 Honda Accord 2.0 Vti AT. It was the last model year before they launched an all new model. About the same power as 2.0S CRV. But it was also about 200-300kg lighter so it never felt underpowered.

    I also have a Ford Escape 2.3. It has 155hp and 206Nm torque (slightly higher than the CRV 2.0S’ 189Nm). Perfectly adequate power for everyday driving. However once laden w 5 adults and a weekend worth of luggage, it struggles on uphill gradients. We frequent Tagaytay Highlands and it is our only car that struggles to negotiate the long uphill climb from Midlands to Highlands. Give it a head of steam and a clear road ahead it can do it no problem; but encounter a slow moving vehicle and it grinds to a halt.
    Big difference between the Escape and CRV is the CVT. The CRV is always in the powerband when you need it.

    Have also brought our 2.0 gas CRV to highlands and had no issues with the steep inclines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Big difference between the Escape and CRV is the CVT. The CRV is always in the powerband when you need it.

    Have also brought our 2.0 gas CRV to highlands and had no issues with the steep inclines.

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    Yeah I was thinking of mentioning that...CVTs are good going uphill because they keep the engine at its sweet spot. It results in the droning lots of people dislike but that’s the way it is supposed to work. The Escape may be lighter and more powerful but it is hooked up to an archaic 4AT that struggles to find the right gear until it is too late and you lose all momentum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehard View Post
    Yeah I was thinking of mentioning that...CVTs are good going uphill because they keep the engine at its sweet spot. It results in the droning lots of people dislike but that’s the way it is supposed to work. The Escape may be lighter and more powerful but it is hooked up to an archaic 4AT that struggles to find the right gear until it is too late and you lose all momentum.
    Also helps with the top speed. I doubt the Escape would reach 200 kph with its 4AT but the CRV can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Also helps with the top speed. I doubt the Escape would reach 200 kph with its 4AT but the CRV can.

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    Official top speed of 2008 Escape 2.3 FWD is 182km/h...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Also helps with the top speed. I doubt the Escape would reach 200 kph with its 4AT but the CRV can.

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    Not necessarily true in most cases. It might help it reach its top speed faster but not increase it. Top speed is mostly dependent still on the engine. Most conventional 4 speed autos have more or less the same overdrive gear ratio as its 5 speed manual counterparts, the extra gear is just for efficiency. In the case of a cvt, it still has a ceiling where it will reach its "highest gear".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ieddam View Post
    Not necessarily true in most cases. It might help it reach its top speed faster but not increase it. Top speed is mostly dependent still on the engine. Most conventional 4 speed autos have more or less the same overdrive gear ratio as its 5 speed manual counterparts, the extra gear is just for efficiency. In the case of a cvt, it still has a ceiling where it will reach its "highest gear".
    Yes it's not about increasing the top speed but getting there. Most cars I've tried have long 4th gears. My Mazda 3 for example, reaches 180 in 3rd. Could reach 200 but 4th is too long and out of the powerband so it takes a downhill or a really long stretch of road to get there, I've actually just reached 190 with it. A manual 5-speed Mazda 3 would have no problem breaching 200.

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