MC riders na walang paki!

**fireblade** · July 8th, 2007 01:30 AM

Try to watch this video and tell me who has more offenses, cars or MCs.

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkfiW...elated&search=

**forza1** · July 8th, 2007 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by fireblade

Try to watch this video and tell me who has more offenses, cars or MCs.

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkfiW...elated&search=

I was expecting more of a outrageous and chaotic behavior of bikes since the thread title "MC rider na walang paki" Looks like a peaceful organize ride

Since there were no painted lane markers on the road cars and bikes were all over the place but it's normal and not chaotic. Correct me if Im wrong but I think I saw double solid line since the video was a bit blurry on the road it might be only one solid line which biker crossed you can't do that if there's solid double line.

**fireblade** · July 8th, 2007 12:11 PM

Hi Forza,

I also noted your observation while watching it. The whole point of me posting it here is to show everyone that it is both cars and riders who makes offenses. Sadly, there are a lot of irresponsible posts here and bikes are being singled out most of the time. Tsikot.com-the pinoy lover of wheels is always flashing and I cant seem to understand why people cant just help out one another. At one point, it even came from a moderator and that actually floored me.

**forza1** · July 8th, 2007 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by fireblade

Hi Forza,

I also noted your observation while watching it. The whole point of me posting it here is to show everyone that it is both cars and riders who makes offenses. Sadly, there are a lot of irresponsible posts here and bikes are being singled out most of the time. Tsikot.com-the pinoy lover of wheels is always flashing and I cant seem to understand why people cant just help out one another. At one point, it even came from a moderator and that actually floored me.

What can expect from a car forum. Then again, you got to experience the other side. For me it's legal to lane split it's ok as long it's done safely it's legal where I'm at cops do it to. I think car guys are just jealous that they have to sit in traffic while biker zoom and past by. Car guys, you should feel blessed that you're on a cage with the protection, aircon, radio and relaxed (can anyone say something else to ad

) On a motorcycle, got to be alert it's much harder to drive you have to really defensive. I know it's frustrating to see those some riders driving like daredevils, but not all of them are like that. I know car drivers some are like that too. Car and Bike drivers are no different from one another just the number of wheels

**ian_rex** · July 9th, 2007 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by fireblade

This is where the likes of Bayani Fernando can be seen. Too bad some people do not think that if BF can think of this for MC riders, what idea may he have for cage drivers? Ian Rex, would you agree wearing a shirt or baseball cap inside your car bearing your plate number? Or you being required to paint your plate number on your car doors? smart isnt it? Criminals use both cars and bikes right?

Its just sad you belong to one group who thinks that cage drivers should have more privilege. Instead of thinking how the problem can be resolved without putting the other in shame, you chose to be just like BF. I am a rider and a cage driver as well. I guess that is one reason I respect both.

no sir, what i am referring is that even before the law was passed somebody tried and for me it is effective. no, i'm not saying that cagers must have more 'privilege', all i'm saying is that in event of accident, cagers was more liable to the riders even if it is not their fault. i do ride too not MC but bicycles only- mind you even bikes were agitated by MC.

anyways, it is rather sad that it has become this way. i wonder how could we appeal for stricter implementation of law to promote discipline.

*fireblade, how can we advocate one? i was figuring how can we promote one.

**Horsepower** · July 9th, 2007 01:45 PM

We (me and several people i know) have been victims of these goons already. Most of the time endangering lives of other people needlessly.

Of course, there are others that follow road rules but probably only 1% of the whole underbone riders population.

I guess, the radical solution to these problems is to limit underbones and smaller motorcycles to villages only. Allow only the 400cc and higher on the public streets.

a 2nd hand car can be had for 50k. same price as a souped up underbone.

**mazdamazda** · July 9th, 2007 01:51 PM

Dang... may sumabit na motor na naman sa tsikot ko... may small gash sa front fender. :seeth:

Btw, just the other day, we saw an MC rider close the side mirror of a school service (L300) so that he can squeeze in between. Ibinalik din naman nya pero shempre wala sa alignment na. The driver had to reach out to adjust his side mirrors again.

**kuyapete** · July 9th, 2007 05:14 PM

fireblade- please, give me a break! don't act so self-righteous, you dont know anything about me to judge me. I've helped more people than you can ever imagine. bakit ko sila tutulungan e nakangiti pa ung driver e. sana pala ikaw yung nakakita para ikaw na lang ang tumulong. And dont feel bad for me for not knowing these mc riding schools, feel bad for those people who fall victims to reckless mc riders like these guys.

**Kamui** · July 9th, 2007 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Horsepower

I guess, the radical solution to these problems is to limit underbones and smaller motorcycles to villages only. Allow only the 400cc and higher on the public streets.

a 2nd hand car can be had for 50k. same price as a souped up underbone.

And what of the less fortunate folk and people who just want to save on gas and time going to work? Force all of them to buy those 2nd hand gas guzzling cars and you guys will have more gridlock, pollution, and alot more late employees coming to work. They'll pay double using a car from what they do riding a motorcycle. Hell repairs to the beat up old car alone is enough to make a person spend thousands needlessly.

I've read about the whole 400cc and above limitation people are campaigning for in this country and it's not really logical. Any guy who has rode bikes from small ones to big 1000cc monsters will know better. The heavier the bike and the more surface area it has being hit by wind the more difficult it is to control.

**LexTer** · July 9th, 2007 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by mazdamazda

just the other day, we saw an MC rider close the side mirror of a school service (L300) so that he can squeeze in between. Ibinalik din naman nya pero shempre wala sa alignment na. The driver had to reach out to adjust his side mirrors again.

ngek! e bakit nya pinakialaman? kung ako driver nung L300 mag aaway kami nung rider. i dont care kahit police or mmda nakasakay. mali is mali.