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    Quote Originally Posted by babynos01 View Post
    our family franchised one before, pero umalis na kami. unioil to be exact.
    sir,just curious as to why you and your family let go of the franchise? i know that gasoline stations have a low margin for products sold pero super tagal ba ng ROI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    sir,just curious as to why you and your family let go of the franchise? i know that gasoline stations have a low margin for products sold pero super tagal ba ng ROI?
    We are selling around 8000 liters of fuel a day.
    Baka sabihin mo sir mataas na yan, honestly hindi. Others can sell twice or thrice our daily volume haha. Maybe even more.

    Mahirap kasi ma meet yung quota nila (which increases every quarter ata? not sure).
    Naalala ko ang quota sa fuel is 13K liters a day, tapos sa lubricants is 1K liters a month.
    So ayun, puro warning haha. Until inofferan kami na kukunin nalang daw nila yung franchise sa amin, pero we declined.
    After a couple of months, nagka leak underneath. Nabutas yung pipe na dinadaluyan ng fuel papunta sa pump dispensers. (loss)
    Ayun, inaccept na namin yung offer tapos binalik nila kalahati ng franchise fee kasi hindi nga natapos yung contract.
    Tapos nagkaroon pa ng isang MALAKING problema na ayaw ko na sabihin haha. Relative related ) (another big loss)
    Nabulag ng pera e.

    Regarding ROI naman, basta marami bumibili sayo ng fuel, ok service niyo, marami nagpapagawa ng kotse, walang problem.
    Mababa kasi markup sa fuel e. Ang malaki ay yung sa lubricants.
    Kahit na nagkaroon kami ng serious problems, kumita parin kami. Yun nga lang, nabawasan.
    Kayang kaya bawiin in one year yung franchise fee. Kung talagang malakas ka, baka in 6 months bawi ka na e.

    Another important thing, wag din mangdaya sa calibration ng pump. Thats the easiest way para kumita, pero lagot ka sa DOE kapag nahuli ka haha.

    BTW, may nabasa akong post ni sir pop3corn na si sir StarexGold daw in-partner sa shell?
    Baka pwede mo kami bigyan ng insights sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babynos01 View Post
    We are selling around 8000 liters of fuel a day.
    Baka sabihin mo sir mataas na yan, honestly hindi. Others can sell twice or thrice our daily volume haha. Maybe even more.

    Mahirap kasi ma meet yung quota nila (which increases every quarter ata? not sure).
    Naalala ko ang quota sa fuel is 13K liters a day, tapos sa lubricants is 1K liters a month.
    Babynos, thanks for the insight

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    Babynos, thanks for the insight
    No prob sir, charge to experience nalang haha.
    Planning to franchise a station sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by babynos01 View Post
    No prob sir, charge to experience nalang haha.
    Planning to franchise a station sir?
    yes sir, nag iisip kami ng immediate family ko. pero baka 1 year from now pa....

    thanks ulit sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    Babynos, thanks for the insight
    Petron ginagaya na Filoil, may 1.5M-2M ka puwede na gas station. Rent nga lang muna sa lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Petron ginagaya na Filoil, may 1.5M-2M ka puwede na gas station. Rent nga lang muna sa lot.
    petron bulilit yata yan. mejo mahirap yata ROI sa ganyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    petron bulilit yata yan. mejo mahirap yata ROI sa ganyan.
    It's all about location really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    It's all about location really.
    Yeah. Lots of small players go out of business really quickly because their location and market suck. Even if they bother to franchise from the "Big Three".

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by babynos01 View Post
    We are selling around 8000 liters of fuel a day.
    Baka sabihin mo sir mataas na yan, honestly hindi. Others can sell twice or thrice our daily volume haha. Maybe even more.

    Mahirap kasi ma meet yung quota nila (which increases every quarter ata? not sure).
    Naalala ko ang quota sa fuel is 13K liters a day, tapos sa lubricants is 1K liters a month.
    So ayun, puro warning haha. Until inofferan kami na kukunin nalang daw nila yung franchise sa amin, pero we declined.
    After a couple of months, nagka leak underneath. Nabutas yung pipe na dinadaluyan ng fuel papunta sa pump dispensers. (loss)
    Ayun, inaccept na namin yung offer tapos binalik nila kalahati ng franchise fee kasi hindi nga natapos yung contract.
    Tapos nagkaroon pa ng isang MALAKING problema na ayaw ko na sabihin haha. Relative related ) (another big loss)
    Nabulag ng pera e.

    Regarding ROI naman, basta marami bumibili sayo ng fuel, ok service niyo, marami nagpapagawa ng kotse, walang problem.
    Mababa kasi markup sa fuel e. Ang malaki ay yung sa lubricants.
    Kahit na nagkaroon kami ng serious problems, kumita parin kami. Yun nga lang, nabawasan.
    Kayang kaya bawiin in one year yung franchise fee. Kung talagang malakas ka, baka in 6 months bawi ka na e.

    Another important thing, wag din mangdaya sa calibration ng pump. Thats the easiest way para kumita, pero lagot ka sa DOE kapag nahuli ka haha.

    BTW, may nabasa akong post ni sir pop3corn na si sir StarexGold daw in-partner sa shell?
    Baka pwede mo kami bigyan ng insights sir.
    sir, can you also give us insight regarding the storage tanks ng smaller players? may QA ba from head office nagc-check ng mga tanks kung may rust, etc.

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