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November 18th, 2016 12:02 AM #81Yes, some believe that as riders, they're entitled to cut through traffic. But looking at the other side of the coin, very few drivers treat them with the same respect as other cars, so they don't act like cars.
Originally Posted by dr. d
Motorcycles splitting lanes is common because if you take a lane for yourself (like they do in other countries), some car will just bully you to the side anyway.
I hate swerving motorcycles that cut it too close just as much as the next guy, but pragmatically, it's beyond my circle of control or influence (no, running them over isn't a civilized option). So instead of channeling my energy towards pointless hate, I just keep myself puzzled by trying to figure out the reasons behind their actions.
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November 18th, 2016 01:07 AM #82The best way to understand them is to experience riding one. We don't understand why they swerve instead of brake the same way they don't understand why big trucks make wide turns.
For me how to drive your vehicle with another vehicle type is something that should be taught in driving school and tested when getting a driver's license.
As for bad driving, most drivers of any mode of transport are guilty. If only the government were more strict on driver education during license application and renewal and on catching each and every violation being done everyday we'd probably make good progress in no time.
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November 18th, 2016 07:51 AM #83roxas blvd is one such road.
the narrow space just beside the sidewalk curb is a favorite of motorcycles.
kadalasan nga, hindi ako maka-abante sa green light, dahil may motor sa kanan na baka ma-sagi.
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November 18th, 2016 08:14 AM #84
In some ways, yes bro. Originally Posted by eryxon
Sana, nandito ka sa may area ng DOST,- dahil talagang walang disiplina ang mga motor dito, at sila ang isang dahilan ng matinding traffic.
Aba e,- double counterflow na ang mga motor [meaning lagpas na sa linya nila] sa salubungang daan, tapos sasabayan pa ng mga motor na pilit mag-overtake sa iyo sa kanan at kaliwa,- wala kang magawa kung hindi umusad ng napakabagal o dili kaya ay huminto na lang... Iyan ang salot na ginagawa ng mga nagmo-motor dito sa lugar namin... Araw-araw iyan.
I used to drive a motorcycle,- pero hindi katulad ng mga nagmo-motor ngayon ang diskarte namin na lusot sa kaliwa,- lusot sa kanan o automatic counterflow kaagad. At tsaka,- go with the traffic. And do not drive as if you own the road [may gusto nang lumusot sa iyo dahil mabagal ka na nga,- ayaw mo pang pagbigyan]. Share the road! Originally Posted by eryxon
Magandang batas iyan.... Parang car pooling law sa ibang bansa na may exclusive lane....
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November 18th, 2016 08:19 AM #85hindi kasi sinisita nang masigasig, ang mga motor.
bakit ba sila susunod sa batas trapiko, kung wala namang sumisisita sa kanila!
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November 18th, 2016 08:51 AM #86bro ma OT lang, ano mas matindi sa experience mo; DOST vs west service vs east service road? yun 2 service road kasi nabanggit ko mas nakakatakot kasi salubungan yung north and southbound MCs eh, pag nagkamali sila at nataon katabi mo malaki laki damage sayo, worst sayo pa isisi yun banggaan nilang tang* Originally Posted by CVT
In some ways, yes bro.
Sana, nandito ka sa may area ng DOST,- dahil talagang walang disiplina ang mga motor dito, at sila ang isang dahilan ng matinding traffic.
Aba e,- double counterflow na ang mga motor [meaning lagpas na sa linya nila] sa salubungang daan, tapos sasabayan pa ng mga motor na pilit mag-overtake sa iyo sa kanan at kaliwa,- wala kang magawa kung hindi umusad ng napakabagal o dili kaya ay huminto na lang... Iyan ang salot na ginagawa ng mga nagmo-motor dito sa lugar namin... Araw-araw iyan.
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November 18th, 2016 09:26 AM #87
Bro.,- iyong DOST ay sa East Service Road na nasa mouth ng Bicutan interchange. Originally Posted by ninjababez
Sa akin,- mas grabe ang East Service Road sa segment ng kalye na ito dahil nga palaging naka-counterflow ang mga motor.
Pero, pagdating sa may entrance ng FTI (northbound ito),- nagkakaroon ng island sa gitna,- and so, mas less complicated ang maniobra vs. sa mga nagmo-motor....
Sa West Service Rd (between ito ng Sales Bridge and Merville (C5 Extension)),- mas madali ang pagmamaneho vs. nagmo-motor... Pero, doon sa maliit na rotonda sa Sales Bridge,- mauna na kayong lahat ng naka-motor, dahil gigitgitin ka nila para makauna,- kaya trapik palagi roon.... Around 430PM pa lang ito kaya I imagine mas grabe pag gumabi na....
Tapos sa intersection ng Kaingin Rd at Multinational Ave.... Dahil sa sandamakmak na motor na nag-uunahan sa intersection,- more than 10 seconds na , hindi makausad ang mga sasakyan dahil saksak at gitgit at cut ang ginagawa ng mga motor para mauna silang mag-cross...
Kaya,- mga 5-6 na sasakyan lang ang nakakatawid ng intersection sa 30sec na green light.... They are making the flow of traffic very inefficient in the intersections because of their manner of driving.
Tanong,- iyan ba ang nakakaluwag ng trapik ang mga motor?
Hindi na kailangang i-memorize iyan!
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November 18th, 2016 09:27 AM #88On the contrary, I see policemen flagging down motorcycles for random spot checks every few intersections or so. Originally Posted by dr. d
I have never seen a car flagged down like that.
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November 18th, 2016 10:01 AM #89ah yeah naalala ko na DOST nga pala sa bonifacio roundabout dami nga dyan. Originally Posted by CVT
Bro.,- iyong DOST ay sa East Service Road na nasa mouth ng Bicutan interchange.
Sa akin,- mas grabe ang East Service Road sa segment ng kalye na ito dahil nga palaging naka-counterflow ang mga motor.
Pero, pagdating sa may entrance ng FTI (northbound ito),- nagkakaroon ng island sa gitna,- and so, mas less complicated ang maniobra vs. sa mga nagmo-motor....
Sa West Service Rd (between ito ng Sales Bridge and Merville (C5 Extension)),- mas madali ang pagmamaneho vs. nagmo-motor... Pero, doon sa maliit na rotonda sa Sales Bridge,- mauna na kayong lahat ng naka-motor, dahil gigitgitin ka nila para makauna,- kaya trapik palagi roon.... Around 430PM pa lang ito kaya I imagine mas grabe pag gumabi na....
Tapos sa intersection ng Kaingin Rd at Multinational Ave.... Dahil sa sandamakmak na motor na nag-uunahan sa intersection,- more than 10 seconds na , hindi makausad ang mga sasakyan dahil saksak at gitgit at cut ang ginagawa ng mga motor para mauna silang mag-cross...
Kaya,- mga 5-6 na sasakyan lang ang nakakatawid ng intersection sa 30sec na green light.... They are making the flow of traffic very inefficient in the intersections because of their manner of driving.
Tanong,- iyan ba ang nakakaluwag ng trapik ang mga motor?
Hindi na kailangang i-memorize iyan!
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November 18th, 2016 10:41 AM #90i have not seen a motorcycle flagged down for a "road misconduct" for many years now. not even for flagrant disregard of road rules. Originally Posted by jut703
but yes, there are many "motorcycle documents inspection corners" along my daily route.
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