Do you really need that much Hp in RP?

**GreenhillsKid** · May 22nd, 2007 03:40 AM

Noticed the RP insted of PI. I guess that's the "PC" term to call Pinas. Guys, cut me some slack, the last time I was home Macoy was still running the show and we almost got shot by his a**hole son at Stargazer.

Anyways, as the title says, I've been checking out this site for a couple of days and I have notice to tremendous increase in performance cars back home. Where in the heck do you open up these cars w/ all the traffic and bako bako roads. (last time I remember) and the quality of gas is not that great either, but I guess it's for show driving (picking up chicks at St. Paul, Sienna, Maryknoll and of course Tia Maria) my old stopming ground

rather than performance driving.

Are there a lot of performance shops and is there still a market for one. I might open a euro tuning shop over there.

To the Philippines, truly the Pearl of the Oreint

**the_wildthing** · May 22nd, 2007 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by GreenhillsKid

Guys, cut me some slack, the last time I was home Macoy was still running the show and we almost got shot by his a**hole son at Stargazer.

Wala na yatang Stargazer ngayon.

Anyways, as the title says, I've been checking out this site for a couple of days and I have notice to tremendous increase in performance cars back home. Where in the heck do you open up these cars w/ all the traffic and bako bako roads. (last time I remember) and the quality of gas is not that great either, but I guess it's for show driving (picking up chicks at St. Paul, Sienna, Maryknoll and of course Tia Maria) my old stopming ground

rather than performance driving.

Wala na ring Maryknoll. May Tia Maria pa ba?

There are good stretches of road to use all that hp and torque, but the real reason is track days. Even so, kaunti rin lang naman ang may high performance cars. A lot of cars have <= 1.3L engines and they're doing fine in Manila's traffic. Less baku-bako, but more cars = traffic.

Are there a lot of performance shops and is there still a market for one. I might open a euro tuning shop over there.

Marami rami na rin, catering to anyone from rice boys who just want a noisy muffler to the serious racers who know what they're doing. There are certainly fewer shops that specialize in Euro brands, but also because there were fewer Euro cars to tune, or fewer owners willing to tune their cars.

**GreenhillsKid** · May 22nd, 2007 06:03 AM

I guess it really changed a lot. The last time I was there during the 80's, I can't even imagine driving a 6 cylinder. It's mostly 4 bangers on the road, there were a few porsches around at that time. My buddy had a 79 911T wide body from Dasma. subd.

**redorange** · May 22nd, 2007 06:21 AM

What do you consider too much and enough as far as horsepower? Considering that most people even in this site consider 2.0L engines as gas guzzlers, what is considered as "much" when you measure horsepower.

OT
Maryknoll just changed it's name to Miriam College and Tia Maria's is still around.

**GreenhillsKid** · May 22nd, 2007 07:20 AM

engines that are 6 & 8 cylinders. i would say about 190hp at the crank is good enough.

**empy** · May 22nd, 2007 08:55 AM

uy Tia Maria...i remember visiting there in the late 80's and sampling the famous zombie (anyone know what i'm talking about?)...um, some of us might have been a little bit underage at the time

re: topic -

"need" - probably nothing more than a 1.6 to 2.0 4-banger. at least that's the impression i got the last time i drove around Manila (in 2003).

"want" - well, for a select few "too much" is merely "just enough"

**froshie1** · May 22nd, 2007 05:59 AM

Welcome to Tsikot!

What kind of Euro tuning shop are you planning to setup? Will it just cater to specific brands or basta anything Euro will fit in? Naku.. Increase in number of performance cars is relative my friend. For me, I will think twice before I setup one. Unless you are really passionate on what you're doing and you won't care initially if the biz will turn out to be good.

There are rich people here bro but IMO they're not that many yet.

**Jun aka Pekto** · May 22nd, 2007 06:46 AM

The sensible answer would be no. But if everyone was sensible, they'd all be driving Getz and Starlet-sized cars. It's a free country, though. Not everyone will have the same tastes. Most buy cars to get from point A to point B. Others buy expensive cars to let others know of their status. Still others buy cars for performance. I don't know where to draw the line at how much hp is enough. There's too many variables to consider.

Personally, I'm one of those who likes spacious midsize sedans with V6's and a minimum of 200 hp. That or a comfortable V6 van with all the passenger amenities. But, I'm also one of those who thinks that I probably won't need a car if my wife and I move to the Philippines (at least for a few years) simply because there's an abundance of public transportation. If we need to go to Manila or something, just get a taxi. That's what we did when we worked out my wife's petition paperwork many years ago.

OT: PI is simply jargon from American GI's (including Pinoys in DoD) who used PI as a term for the Philippines. I've seen that as a navy brat. I've also seen PI used for Philippines on many paperwork. I like RP, though.

**CVT** · May 22nd, 2007 06:57 AM

I am quite happy with my 80-100HP rides....

2701:bye:

**redorange** · May 23rd, 2007 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto

The sensible answer would be no. But if everyone was sensible, they'd all be driving Getz and Starlet-sized cars. It's a free country, though. Not everyone will have the same tastes. Most buy cars to get from point A to point B. Others buy expensive cars to let others know of their status. Still others buy cars for performance. I don't know where to draw the line at how much hp is enough. There's too many variables to consider.

Personally, I'm one of those who likes spacious midsize sedans with V6's and a minimum of 200 hp. That or a comfortable V6 van with all the passenger amenities. But, I'm also one of those who thinks that I probably won't need a car if my wife and I move to the Philippines (at least for a few years) simply because there's an abundance of public transportation. If we need to go to Manila or something, just get a taxi. That's what we did when we worked out my wife's petition paperwork many years ago.

OT: PI is simply jargon from American GI's (including Pinoys in DoD) who used PI as a term for the Philippines. I've seen that as a navy brat. I've also seen PI used for Philippines on many paperwork. I like RP, though.

Which is why I said going more than 65mph.

OT
Anyways try driving a Crown Vic on the freeway and watch all the cars slow down behind you even if it is a rental. We have an unmarked Crown Vic with the police lights hidden inside and everybody slows down behind us all the time thinking we are CHP. Of course there was one idiot who threw something at it on the freeway and did he get a surprise when the lights were suddenly turned on and he was asked to pull over.

CHP was called and he was given a ticket. Lucky he wasn't charged with assault on a fed. officer and destruction of fed. property, I believe both are felonies.