Remote bypass oil filtration

**locoroco777** · April 15th, 2011 12:32 AM

WOOOOOW...As in WOOOOOOW!

I was actually thinkin' bout a short quick answer...but you gave me an article!

Thanks a lot dvldoc!

just some follow up questions...

So when you say regular filters on 10k kms you mean the regular OEM is already sufficient? or still the regulars from fleetguard that are non microglass is still the best compared to the dealerships provide?

2nd is that if ever I find a microglass filter that fits my trucks engine (4m41) (Hopefully the LF3918 will fit)....How can I differentiate it from the regular ones physically?

In my case how does the LF3918 microglass differs from the regular LF3564 or the LF3830 for the 4m40/4m41 in appearance?

Sorry for asking too much about it...Because you probably know already that the majority of the sellers here are much more of merchants rather than helpful people...

they will probably tell me that its a microglass but its not really the real thing....the box might say 3918 but really its a 3564 or a 3830 inside etc etc...

I just wanna be on the safe sure side...

**dvldoc** · April 15th, 2011 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by locoroco777

WOOOOOW...As in WOOOOOOW!

I was actually thinkin' bout a short quick answer...but you gave me an article!

Thanks a lot dvldoc!

just some follow up questions...

So when you say regular filters on 10k kms you mean the regular OEM is already sufficient? or still the regulars from fleetguard that are non microglass is still the best compared to the dealerships provide?

2nd is that if ever I find a microglass filter that fits my trucks engine (4m41) (Hopefully the LF3918 will fit)....How can I differentiate it from the regular ones physically?

In my case how does the LF3918 microglass differs from the regular LF3564 or the LF3830 for the 4m40/4m41 in appearance?

Sorry for asking too much about it...Because you probably know already that the majority of the sellers here are much more of merchants rather than helpful people...

they will probably tell me that its a microglass but its not really the real thing....the box might say 3918 but really its a 3564 or a 3830 inside etc etc...

I just wanna be on the safe sure side...

The filter will say microglass right on the filter itself. It will also be physically heaver than the regular cellulose version if the same size filter. only small fleetguards come in boxes the rest just fully wrapped in plastic. When I say small I mean like Fortunner filter size.

The stock filter is a combo unit the upgrade one is not. I rather keep the stock since it has the bypass element in it. Also the upgrade one is almost 7" long.

LF3830
Overall Height: 5.59 (142)
Largest OD: 3.68 (94)
ADBV: Yes
BPV Setting: 36.26 (250)
Thread Size: 1-12 UNF-2B

LF3564 (STANDARD REPLACMENT)
Overall Height: 5.63 (143)
Largest OD: 4.41 (112)
BPV Setting: 14.50 (100)
Thread Size: M26 X 1.5-6H INT

LF3918
Overall Height: 6.92 (176)
Largest OD: 3.66 (93)
Thread Size: M26 X 1.5

Stock 4m40 filter is different than every other one since it's a dual filter so 10000klm is easy for it even stock.

Stock everything else especially really cheap OEM like Nissan, Honda, Toyota, are good for only 5000k I would not push them much further. Stock Fleetguards are good for 10000k filter and oil changes since they hold 3 to 4 times more dirt without getting clogged.

**12vdc** · April 15th, 2011 01:10 AM

Took some more samples of UNF 3/4-16.

Baldwin has a differnet bypass valve design. Bosch is korean and looks ordinary. Fram PH has synthetic-glass blend as it claims but after checkin this vid, the element seems to be ordinary cellulose.

http://youtu.be/n_mQcIyteQk . so im stickin to Fleetguard.

Whats the strataphore version of LF3487 ??

**12vdc** · April 15th, 2011 01:38 AM

German version
http://youtu.be/xEKSnbz5dus
Now im thinking again, should the BPV value be observed as near as possible to the oem setting? My assumption is, upsizing the filter would mean an increased pressure required to open BPV so its ok to get a lower BPV-seting for the bigger filter. :puyat:

**dvldoc** · April 15th, 2011 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by 12vdc

German version
http://youtu.be/xEKSnbz5dus
Now im thinking again, should the BPV value be observed as near as possible to the oem setting? My assumption is, upsizing the filter would mean an increased pressure required to open BPV so its ok to get a lower BPV-seting for the bigger filter. :puyat:

Microglass version is more free flowing than cellulose, I have noticed not real change in oil pressure on start-ups or driving using a larger filter with microglass version in my old F250 truck I went with a filter 2 times bigger.

The Stratopore version will probably not work for you as it is almost 7" tall.

LF3947
Overall Height: 6.95 (177)
Largest OD: 3.68 (93)
ADBV: Yes
BPV Setting: 10.00 (69)
Thread Size: 3/4-16 UNF-2B

This is the one I am using for my bypass filter, It's also not a full flow filter so you can't use it by itself.

I'm also doing a remote transmission filter set up using my LF3487 filters, (they are also rated for hydraulic fluid and over 300psi burst pressure so it more than handles my tranny filtering needs.

**dvldoc** · April 15th, 2011 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by 12vdc

Took some more samples of UNF 3/4-16.

Baldwin has a differnet bypass valve design. Bosch is korean and looks ordinary. Fram PH has synthetic-glass blend as it claims but after checkin this vid, the element seems to be ordinary cellulose.

http://youtu.be/n_mQcIyteQk . so im stickin to Fleetguard.

Whats the strataphore version of LF3487 ??

I did not know they carried the orange can of death there to lol. FRAM is utter garbage only there very high end filter has synthetic media.

The orange can ones right down to there mid level ones all suck. The extended guard is the only synthetic media filter they have. Frams filter media is well know to collapse rendering it usless as a filter since the oil goes unfiltered. It also like to come apart at the seams.

Friends don't let friends use Fram, Here is a example of a collapse one, Many pending lawsuits for this little issue.

**edtf** · April 15th, 2011 11:00 AM

YUP!! FRAM is a bit common in the Manila area. Good enough I saw the bad results of the FRAM so I went with baldwin and now I shall try fleetguard. Thanks for the reminder and 2nd motion of my findings

I shall stick with shell lubes too I think the semi synthetic is Helix x7 (or something like that)

**dvldoc** · April 15th, 2011 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by edtf

YUP!! FRAM is a bit common in the Manila area. Good enough I saw the bad results of the FRAM so I went with baldwin and now I shall try fleetguard. Thanks for the reminder and 2nd motion of my findings

I shall stick with shell lubes too I think the semi synthetic is Helix x7 (or something like that)

Baldwin and fleetguard are pretty close to the same as far as quality goes.

And yeah nothing wrong with Shell.

http://www.shell.com.ph/home/content...range_classic/

I wonder how close this is formulated to Shells Rotella T5 and T6 oils? Or is it just the same oil different names. I can't see them doing two totally separate brands of oils.

**locoroco777** · April 15th, 2011 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by dvldoc

The filter will say microglass right on the filter itself. It will also be physically heaver than the regular cellulose version if the same size filter. only small fleetguards come in boxes the rest just fully wrapped in plastic. When I say small I mean like Fortunner filter size.

The stock filter is a combo unit the upgrade one is not. I rather keep the stock since it has the bypass element in it. Also the upgrade one is almost 7" long.

LF3830
Overall Height: 5.59 (142)
Largest OD: 3.68 (94)
ADBV: Yes
BPV Setting: 36.26 (250)
Thread Size: 1-12 UNF-2B

LF3564 (STANDARD REPLACMENT)
Overall Height: 5.63 (143)
Largest OD: 4.41 (112)
BPV Setting: 14.50 (100)
Thread Size: M26 X 1.5-6H INT

LF3918
Overall Height: 6.92 (176)
Largest OD: 3.66 (93)
Thread Size: M26 X 1.5

Stock 4m40 filter is different than every other one since it's a dual filter so 10000klm is easy for it even stock.

Stock everything else especially really cheap OEM like Nissan, Honda, Toyota, are good for only 5000k I would not push them much further. Stock Fleetguards are good for 10000k filter and oil changes since they hold 3 to 4 times more dirt without getting clogged.

Copy that...thanks!

**edtf** · April 15th, 2011 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by dvldoc

Baldwin and fleetguard are pretty close to the same as far as quality goes.

And yeah nothing wrong with Shell.

http://www.shell.com.ph/home/content...range_classic/

I wonder how close this is formulated to Shells Rotella T5 and T6 oils? Or is it just the same oil different names. I can't see them doing two totally separate brands of oils.

Yup!! I think Helix was used for (high quality) brand recall. Rotella was launched as a low end oil (used for service vehicles) here years years ago

to add - one thing wrong with shell (oh and other brands too) is the price :D

so I might use the semi synthetic and fleetguard filter and go 10,000 kms instead of my usual 5k change