oil sludge in toyota altis 2003 engine

[konichiwa888]

Yun Toyota Altis 2003 model 1.6G (automatic) ko po, medyo mga 2 years bago nachange oil, pero sobrang konti ng gamit ko po in those 2 years. Nagkaroon na sya ng namumuong langis sa cover kapag binuksan, sabi ng mechanic hindi na sya makukuha sa flushing. After ng change oil 3 months ago, nabawasan po ng malaki yun langis based doon sa dipstick. Tumatakbo pa po yun sasakyan pero napapansin ko po kapag umaga, kapag malamig ang makina, start ko, medyo maingay yun engine, yun ugong malakas. Kapag nagdrdrive naman po ako, may konting ugong din yun parang tunog ng airplane, medyo mahina lang. Aside from that, wala naman ako ibang napapansin na problem. And also yun oil indicator light hindi po umiilaw kahit na low in oil na po ako.

I asked for the opinion of a friend who knows something about car, and he is recommending me to have the engine undergo a general overhaul para malinis po yun loob ng engine at mapalitan na yun mga nasunog/nasira na parts. Ano pong massuggest nyo sa akin? Kailangan ko na po ba ipa overhaul? Can u guys recommend a shop/talyer who have this service and more or less magkano po ang magagastos ko?

My friend found a shop which offers minimum of 25k for overhaul service, and depende daw ano papalitan sa loob kapag binuksan lang daw bago malalaman, possible na umabot daw ng 50k if madami papalitan. Do you guys think a general overhaul is the solution to my engine problem? And will my engine lasts after the overhaul? How about buying a surplus engine and pachange engine na lang po? I heard medyo mahal at madaming proceso sa pagpalit ng engine, kailangan din po ng bayad sa pagpalit ng engine number sa LTO. Thanks.

[SkyFlakes88]

Yun Toyota Altis 2003 model 1.6G (automatic) ko po, medyo mga 2 years bago nachange oil, pero sobrang konti ng gamit ko po in those 2 years. Nagkaroon na sya ng namumuong langis sa cover kapag binuksan, sabi ng mechanic hindi na sya makukuha sa flushing. After ng change oil 3 months ago, nabawasan po ng malaki yun langis based doon sa dipstick. Tumatakbo pa po yun sasakyan pero napapansin ko po kapag umaga, kapag malamig ang makina, start ko, medyo maingay yun engine, yun ugong malakas. Kapag nagdrdrive naman po ako, may konting ugong din yun parang tunog ng airplane, medyo mahina lang. Aside from that, wala naman ako ibang napapansin na problem. And also yun oil indicator light hindi po umiilaw kahit na low in oil na po ako.

I asked for the opinion of a friend who knows something about car, and he is recommending me to have the engine undergo a general overhaul para malinis po yun loob ng engine at mapalitan na yun mga nasunog/nasira na parts. Ano pong massuggest nyo sa akin? Kailangan ko na po ba ipa overhaul? Can u guys recommend a shop/talyer who have this service and more or less magkano po ang magagastos ko?

My friend found a shop which offers minimum of 25k for overhaul service, and depende daw ano papalitan sa loob kapag binuksan lang daw bago malalaman, possible na umabot daw ng 50k if madami papalitan. Do you guys think a general overhaul is the solution to my engine problem? And will my engine lasts after the overhaul? How about buying a surplus engine and pachange engine na lang po? I heard medyo mahal at madaming proceso sa pagpalit ng engine, kailangan din po ng bayad sa pagpalit ng engine number sa LTO. Thanks.

Why not have your car diagnose by another mechanic just to be safe if your car really needs a general overhauling. But a tita of mine had the same problem also an altis E a/t 04 model. Na general overhaul nga due to sludge. Naibalik naman though i'm not sure how much she spent but i think it's cheaper than 25k. It's also cheaper to overhaul than to change engine. The reason my tita's Altis got sludge was changing oil at 10k intervals. After that it was 5k intervals and did not have the same problems anymore until she sold it. The mechanic (Domeng) i posted in your post at other threads was the one who overhauled it by the way.

[innova2013]

Yun Toyota Altis 2003 model 1.6G (automatic) ko po, medyo mga 2 years bago nachange oil, pero sobrang konti ng gamit ko po in those 2 years. Nagkaroon na sya ng namumuong langis sa cover kapag binuksan, sabi ng mechanic hindi na sya makukuha sa flushing. After ng change oil 3 months ago, nabawasan po ng malaki yun langis based doon sa dipstick. Tumatakbo pa po yun sasakyan pero napapansin ko po kapag umaga, kapag malamig ang makina, start ko, medyo maingay yun engine, yun ugong malakas. Kapag nagdrdrive naman po ako, may konting ugong din yun parang tunog ng airplane, medyo mahina lang. Aside from that, wala naman ako ibang napapansin na problem. And also yun oil indicator light hindi po umiilaw kahit na low in oil na po ako.

I asked for the opinion of a friend who knows something about car, and he is recommending me to have the engine undergo a general overhaul para malinis po yun loob ng engine at mapalitan na yun mga nasunog/nasira na parts. Ano pong massuggest nyo sa akin? Kailangan ko na po ba ipa overhaul? Can u guys recommend a shop/talyer who have this service and more or less magkano po ang magagastos ko?

My friend found a shop which offers minimum of 25k for overhaul service, and depende daw ano papalitan sa loob kapag binuksan lang daw bago malalaman, possible na umabot daw ng 50k if madami papalitan. Do you guys think a general overhaul is the solution to my engine problem? And will my engine lasts after the overhaul? How about buying a surplus engine and pachange engine na lang po? I heard medyo mahal at madaming proceso sa pagpalit ng engine, kailangan din po ng bayad sa pagpalit ng engine number sa LTO. Thanks.

try mo muna sir magpa baba ng oil pan. kasi hindi pa steady yung oil warning lamp mo.

bali ang gagawin ng mechanic, tanggal oil pan, lilinisin yung namuong langis sa oil pan at lilinisin yung oil strainer (gamit carb cleaner para matunaw yung namuong langis, baka kasi barado lang kaya may "oil starvation" na nangyayari kaya may knocking sound)

at makikita din nila kung may sludge talaga sa makina mo o baka barado lang yung oil strainer ng oil pump.

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Yun Toyota Altis 2003 model 1.6G (automatic) ko po, medyo mga 2 years bago nachange oil, pero sobrang konti ng gamit ko po in those 2 years. Nagkaroon na sya ng namumuong langis sa cover kapag binuksan, sabi ng mechanic hindi na sya makukuha sa flushing. After ng change oil 3 months ago, nabawasan po ng malaki yun langis based doon sa dipstick. Tumatakbo pa po yun sasakyan pero napapansin ko po kapag umaga, kapag malamig ang makina, start ko, medyo maingay yun engine, yun ugong malakas. Kapag nagdrdrive naman po ako, may konting ugong din yun parang tunog ng airplane, medyo mahina lang. Aside from that, wala naman ako ibang napapansin na problem. And also yun oil indicator light hindi po umiilaw kahit na low in oil na po ako.

I asked for the opinion of a friend who knows something about car, and he is recommending me to have the engine undergo a general overhaul para malinis po yun loob ng engine at mapalitan na yun mga nasunog/nasira na parts. Ano pong massuggest nyo sa akin? Kailangan ko na po ba ipa overhaul? Can u guys recommend a shop/talyer who have this service and more or less magkano po ang magagastos ko?

My friend found a shop which offers minimum of 25k for overhaul service, and depende daw ano papalitan sa loob kapag binuksan lang daw bago malalaman, possible na umabot daw ng 50k if madami papalitan. Do you guys think a general overhaul is the solution to my engine problem? And will my engine lasts after the overhaul? How about buying a surplus engine and pachange engine na lang po? I heard medyo mahal at madaming proceso sa pagpalit ng engine, kailangan din po ng bayad sa pagpalit ng engine number sa LTO. Thanks.

try mo muna sir magpa baba ng oil pan. kasi hindi pa steady yung oil warning lamp mo.

bali ang gagawin ng mechanic, tanggal oil pan, lilinisin yung namuong langis sa oil pan at lilinisin yung oil strainer (gamit carb cleaner para matunaw yung namuong langis, baka kasi barado lang kaya may "oil starvation" na nangyayari kaya may knocking sound)

at makikita din nila kung may sludge talaga sa makina mo o baka barado lang yung oil strainer ng oil pump.

[SkyFlakes88]

Malamang barado na nang sludge yan buong engine. There are small holes sa loob that oil should pass through. It's best to completely disassemble the engine and assess what needs to be done and replace if any. That's the only way you could really know what kind of work should be done and the cost that goes with it so that you can decide what to do. A surplus engine is already used. It's better to repair your original engine unless you plan to go 1.8 or 2.0 and spend a bit more as there are parts that are also needed to recondition a surplus engine. Will cost more but the upgrade is worth it. Kung same 1.6 lang din i'd rather use my old engine unless yun bore na nya ang may tama and needs to put in liners.

[glenn manikis]

Pag Ganyan ang ginagawa namin sa Mga gensets namin... Pinapa de rusting na namin yan... Ask Ko Lang gumagamit ka Po ba Ng Oil Additive? And what brand gamit mo?

[glenn manikis]

Yung flakes nyan.. Pag natangal.. Will act as a grinding compound sa engine...

[vinj]

50K for an Altis overhaul is pricey unless you overheated the engine and warped the cylinder heads. Do a compression test first to see if you have any busted seals, piston rings causing loose compression. Have the timing chain and tensioners checked too. If need be, you can buy an original overhaul kit (gaskets and the like) from shops like Toyorama, Celica, Aerodymanic, Gant, etc. (Banawe, Aranata Ave, Masangkay or Pasay areas) and these should be reasonable.Have a mechanic first open the engine and drop the oil pan to clean it.

Even if the car is not used often, make it a practice to change the oil once or twice a year. It would save you in the long run and will only cost you 1K+ at your gas station.

[t2erns]

i don't think you need an overhaul. the least you can do is pulldown the oil pan and clean the oil pick-up tube. pull down the valve cover and clean manually the intake and exhaust cam shafts and other components. then do an engine flush. and most important is to replace the PCV VALVE. yan pcv valve kadalasan cause ng sludge and idagdag mo pa ang dalang ng change oil.

yun ingay na nadidinig mo is probabably un pressure sa crankcase resulta ng clogged pcv valve

[dr. d]

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i agree with skyflakes above.
dis-assemble the engine and clean it, especially the smaller oil passages. if you are lucky, you will need to purchase only an overhaul kit (mostly gaskets ang laman..).
the oil warning lamp turns on when pressure is low. with clogged passage, depending on where the sensor is, the pressure will "not be low"..
many car engines will read low oil pressure, once the joints and mating surfaces become loose.., i.e., tired engine, ready for overhaul.

50K..? worser case scenario na yata yan.. 25K still seems high, if no metal parts are to be changed.. 15K siguro, especially if the mechanic is friendly. 'tis what i spend a few years ago on my non-toyota car.. minimal metal parts replaced.. kasama pa ang PS..

good luck.

[pdspd]

No need to overhaul.Baklasin lng ang cylinder head chka oil pan.Remove the strainer ng oil pump.Tapos linisin din ang vvti oil filter sa may ilalim ng vvti oil control valve(may 17mm bolt,nandun ung maliit na filter).Karamihan ng oil sludge,naipon lng sa ibabaw ng cylinder head.Bago magpa overhaul.magpa compression test ka muna kung out of specs or malayo na diprensya ng 4 na cylinders.Tapos,kabitan muna ng mechanical oil pressure gauge ang oil sending unit para makita kung nasa specs pa ang oil pressure.Pag nasa specs pa,bakit ka magpa overhaul?Aabutin ka ng 20k+ sa pyesa pa lng (1zzfe/3zzfe).