Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

**redlantern** · May 31st, 2015 03:30 PM

But if you look on performance level comparing group 3 to group 4 the performance is not that significant on uoas. So to be wise you will not buy expensive group 4.

**bloowolf** · May 31st, 2015 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by redlantern

But if you look on performance level comparing group 3 to group 4 the performance is not that significant on uoas. So to be wise you will not buy expensive group 4.

No argument on that. The oil is good as most claim. It's the way they are presenting the oil as fully synthetic when it is clearly not. Unless they are hiding something, why not just label the oil as semisynthetic or synthetic blend? The oil will sell since it is a good oil with a very good price.

**redlantern** · May 31st, 2015 05:32 PM

I thini its more of a marketing decision. They can price a little bit more by claiming fully synthetic.

Its the same with organic farming. There are certain rules you need to follow to have the organic seal. Not really 100%

**bloowolf** · May 31st, 2015 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by redlantern

I thini its more of a marketing decision. They can price a little bit more by claiming fully synthetic.

Its the same with organic farming. There are certain rules you need to follow to have the organic seal. Not really 100%

Still fraudulent to me. No wonder a couple of guys here insistent that zic RV is synthetic when it is clearly not. They are probably vendors or Olx

**baludoy** · June 1st, 2015 12:14 AM

^ ayoko na mag zic. all the while i thought i'm using a fully synthetic oil on my ride

**bloowolf** · June 1st, 2015 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by baludoy

^ ayoko na mag zic. all the while i thought i'm using a fully synthetic oil on my ride

You can still use it as long as you know what you are buying. The oil is good anyway & the price is cheap. Just don't treat is as a fully synthetic. You'd have to change your oil earlier than 10k.

**redlantern** · June 1st, 2015 05:55 AM

Thats one misconception about oil in the philippines. Mineral, semi less than tenthousand kilometers. Not true. Its dealership gimmick to sell fully synthetic, And dealership oil are not group 4.

Heavy duty truck uses semi-oil for fifteenthousand kilometers

Its not about group2 group3 or group4. Its how well the oil perform when you drive and uoas results. But you dont uoas every oil change. You just feel what makes your car behave at a fraction of the cost. You throw the oil anyway.

Using group4 but using incorrect viscosity will make your car underperform.

To the one asking for price zic 0w30, I usually wait for my shipment of oil coming from singapore. One collegue who went to singapore saw mobil1 dexos rated on a sale and bought lots of it.

But if i cant wait i go to honda and kia. Honda has good oil with choices of correct visco for gasoline engine 10w30 5w30 5w40. Kia has the zic line. Thankfully they dont sell crazy 15w40 thick visco.

Toyota and mitsubishi dealership are crazy. They sell 20w50 for gasoline engine.

**StockEngine** · June 1st, 2015 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by redlantern

Thats one misconception about oil in the philippines. Mineral, semi less than tenthousand kilometers. Not true.

Its not a misconception. It is somewhat true.

Conditions like: edsa traffic + bumper to bumper traffic(elevated engine temperature I bet some of you noticed their tempt gauge above normal at times) + 1st&2nd gear acceleration + over 1-2hrs for a 20km journey + say the vehicle is fully loaded(typical pinoy family)

With above conditions, by 5000km your fully synthetic oil life is already up. Hence some guys mention kahit 6000km pa lng they feel their engine is not running smoothly. 10000km oil life is doable only when youre crusing.

Even lube advisors say oil life is half during severe use.

**Walter** · June 1st, 2015 08:45 AM

It's in owners manual, severe conditions include heavy traffic and short distance driving. You change oil at 3000 kms.

**midnytwarrior** · June 1st, 2015 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by redlantern

Toyota and mitsubishi dealership are crazy. They sell 20w50 for gasoline engine.

Hello to all!
New lang dito sa tsikot at sana patawarin nyo ako at nakikisingit lang.(no time pa para mag backread kaya baka may nakasagot na)

Yan po sir, tumbok nyo po, the dealers should know better. Sa pagkaka alam ko, just correct me na lang, 20W50 was phased out in the 80's. (sabi nun amo ko na kano).

Anyway, sa oil company kasi ako nag work kaya as much as possible na may mai contribute ako, I'll try my level best na lang...

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Originally Posted by redlantern

Toyota and mitsubishi dealership are crazy. They sell 20w50 for gasoline engine.

Hello to all!
New lang dito sa tsikot at sana patawarin nyo ako at nakikisingit lang.(no time pa para mag backread kaya baka may nakasagot na)

Yan po sir, tumbok nyo po, the dealers should know better. Sa pagkaka alam ko, just correct me na lang, 20W50 was phased out in the 80's. (sabi nun amo ko na kano).

Anyway, sa oil company kasi ako nag work kaya as much as possible na may mai contribute ako, I'll try my level best na lang...