Black smoke from brand new turbo diesel car

[Errol5]

new ford everest yan sabi mo, common rail na yan, pero hindi pa vgt ang turbo nyan. so may turbo lag. reason for the black smoke.

kahit naman siguro rolls royce na makina ng eroplano pag sobra ang fuel (biglang apak sa accelerator pedal) uusok. walang problema ang engine ng everest mo. yung driver ang problema.

fyi 3rd gen everests are vgt equipped

[basti08]

fyi 3rd gen everests are vgt equipped

it's non VGT i think. Power is just up to par with 3.0L non VGT Fortuner at 163 (vs 156 for the Everest) and 2.5L non VGT Montero at 136 (vs 143 for the Everest). 2.5L VGT equipped Navarra & Grand Starex rates at 174 and Montero is at 178.

[SiRbossR]

it's VGT for both 2.5 and 3.0 everests. The Fortuner too is VGT equipped.

[basti08]

it's VGT for both 2.5 and 3.0 everests. The Fortuner too is VGT equipped.

Wow! Fortuner's engine tuning is tame

[SiRbossR]

Wow! Fortuner's engine tuning is tame

It's the boosting perhaps.

[yebo]

so if the everest is already vgt, then does that mean the koreans are better than the amreicans since their non-vgt diesels (the old grx crdi) does not smoke when you floor the pedal? also their vgt- diesels (gen 2 sta fe) also don't smoke no matter how aggressive you drive. hmmm...

[basti08]

My Accent smokes just a tiny bit at times at 2-2.5K RPM. I think it's pretty normal.

[SiRbossR]

so if the everest is already vgt, then does that mean the koreans are better than the amreicans since their non-vgt diesels (the old grx crdi) does not smoke when you floor the pedal? also their vgt- diesels (gen 2 sta fe) also don't smoke no matter how aggressive you drive. hmmm...

It depends on the application and to what the engine is designed for.

Regarding Everests being smokey in sudden-WOT application, i assume that it's fuel governor and AFR is tuned richer in that kind of scenario. It injects more fuel to the combustion chamber as you floor the accelerator. That sudden change in AFR only last for milliseconds until the engine could cope up with what had just happen. Also, this is also to help cool the engine in that sudden engine acceleration.

This is a normal tuning norm in engines. If you happen to see some highly modified tuner cars, you'll notice that they smoke a bit in sudden-WOT more usual in a turbocharged engine.

I guess the Koreans tuned their engines more differently. Though i see few 2nd gen non-ReVGT SF's smoking just a tiny bit when accelerating. Though i have yet to see both to smoke a lot even in normal driving. The most common smokers i see are Toyota D4D's, Isuzu Ddi's and Mitsu DiD's.

[timo07]

It depends on the application and to what the engine is designed for.

Regarding Everests being smokey in sudden-WOT application, i assume that it's fuel governor and AFR is tuned richer in that kind of scenario. It injects more fuel to the combustion chamber as you floor the accelerator. That sudden change in AFR only last for milliseconds until the engine could cope up with what had just happen. Also, this is also to help cool the engine in that sudden engine acceleration.

This is a normal tuning norm in engines. If you happen to see some highly modified tuner cars, you'll notice that they smoke a bit in sudden-WOT more usual in a turbocharged engine.

I guess the Koreans tuned their engines more differently. Though i see few 2nd gen non-ReVGT SF's smoking just a tiny bit when accelerating. Though i have yet to see both to smoke a lot even in normal driving. The most common smokers i see are Toyota D4D's, Isuzu Ddi's and Mitsu DiD's.

I cannot recall seeing Everests that are emitting black smoke. Brand new crosswinds, yes. Isuzu alterras, barely. Quite a number of D4Ds, but I was surprised to see at least 2 BNew Montys (No plate yet and one with a V badge), Smoking worse than a crosswind.

[Errol5]

so if the everest is already vgt, then does that mean the koreans are better than the amreicans since their non-vgt diesels (the old grx crdi) does not smoke when you floor the pedal? also their vgt- diesels (gen 2 sta fe) also don't smoke no matter how aggressive you drive. hmmm...

maybe, maybe not. but hey, look at the germans (bmw, mbs etc) diesel engines

currently Alterras are the only vehicles in its class not equipped with VGT. (correct me if im wrong)

i own an Everest too like the OP, and im very happy with it. Smokes too when i floor it. But ive seen others (monteros )do worse.