HAIMA cars (Anybody here owns this brand?)

[Excalibur]

I think Buick sales in China single-handedly keep GM profitable.

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Haima really is Mazda... period. The Haima3 is a good buy. Ford Lynx/Mazda Familia underpinnings in a more modern body. And the Ford Lynx, thanks to its good suspension and handling, is still competitive with newer cars. It's only in the transmission that it lags behind.

So that explains the striking resemblance of the mazda 3 with the haima 3. :soccer2:

[Bin Diesel]

So that explains the striking resemblance of the mazda 3 with the haima 3. :soccer2:

actually mazda 3 din talaga yun with the manual transmission.

haima was a joint venture by mazda and hainan provincial government to produce Mazda models for sale in China.
Source: Haima Automobile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[ez3kiel]

Just wanna share to you guys...

Problem with a purchased car
EUGENE WALKER JR., Baguio City
I purchased a lemon car from Haima Cars at Marcos Highway, Poblacion, Tuba, Benguet. The sales executive was Marmen Mendoza with contact numbers 447-6677, 447-8899, 442-3559, 0916-420-1305, and web addresses srmarcelo*lausgroup.com.ph and www.lausautogroup.com.

I purchased a brand new Haima Freema, 1.8l off of the showroom floor. I had a repairman friend who test drove the car and told me he checked all of the fluid levels except for the transmission (this is what he really found to be a problem), but could not check it. The transmission is sealed.
My friend told me there was a slight noise and occasional roughness in the car’s performance. The speedometer calculated almost two kilometers. I also noticed this and the brakes sometimes do not work. I called up Haima to have them pick up the car and check it.

After picking up the car and repairing it, I was informed by the technician that Mark my friend was just a repairman and did not know what he was talking about (This also means I did not know what I was talking about). He said he checked the speedometer by driving and having someone to follow him in another car (They don’t have the proper tools or instruments to check the speedometer). He said the kilometers on the car were correct.

Also, the transmission, brakes, and shifting of the gears, worked perfectly. About a week later, my fiancé and I drove the automobile for the first time. We went to fill the gas tank. On our way home, the problem occurred. While driving up the hill the car began to stall out. We back up down the hill several times and tried again. We even built up the RPMS and tried again but the car just could not climb the hill. On our last try, the car rolled backwards very fast. Merlyn (my fiancé) tried the brakes but this did not stop the car. Finally before a near death collision with a stone wall, she used the hand brake and it worked.

We looked for our neighbor’s driver. We need him to try getting the car away from the stone wall. Finally a taxi driver came along, we asked for help but he had a passenger at this time. He was a Good Samaritan and returned to help us. He tried, became aggravated, and stressed out before quitting. I pleaded him to wait until I called Haima who gave the Good Samaritan the same instruction we all had previously tried. He decided to back the car all the way down the hill. He put the car in drive 1 and drove up the hill as fast as he could. We made it barely up the hill.

On Aug. 8, Haima’s technician came to pick up the car. He checked before taking it to the dealers. The same thing happened. Still he insisted the brakes were good. I called them the next day and was told the technician was taking instruction from another technician over the phone and it will be repaired soon. After that day I called again and could not talk to anyone. I left messages for them to have their manager contact me but it never happened.

On Aug. 17, I spoke with the Terry, the sales manager. He informed me that they had just received the part for the car. I told him I did not want a rebuild transmission. I paid for a new car and that is the only thing I will accept. Then I changed my mind and told him that I wanted my money back because I did not like the way they were doing business, the continuous lying and they have no respect for my intelligence. The sales manager informed me that he will talk to his boss about returning my money. I asked what time will I be hearing from him again and he said 4 p.m. that same day.

At 4 p.m., I did not hear from him. Suddenly at 5:10 p.m., Mendoza, Terry, and the technician were at my door. We discussed my concerns with the car. They wanted to give me a loaner car while they replaced the ATF. I asked why will I need a loaner car just for them to replace the ATF? They said they had to check if it works.

I found out they did not have the equipment for checking the ATF (VAG Scan was needed, but they did not have IT or did not know what it was).

They said they did not know how long the ATF was in the car before it arrived from the manufacturer in China. I told them they should have received this information upon arrival of the car. Mendoza said the ATF was contaminated from the manufacturer.

Then the sales manager informed me that this is the reason they check the car after 2,500 kilometers or three months. I said, “You don’t check before turning the car over to the buyer?” They said no. They did not even check before bringing it back to me.

No one even knew that oil and transmission fluid do not go bad on the shelf. The seal transmission fluid does not need to be changed but every seven to 10 years. They did not know that this seal transmission fluid was good for 150 miles. It is good to be checked for leakage and other things which may apply every six months with a VAG Scan. Without them having the proper equipment to change the fluid, they will have to keep the engine running while replacing the ATF and this would be guess work. The reason they needed to keep the car and check out the performance was because they do not have diagnostic equipment for this computerized car. They could not even calibrate the speedometer.

After learning of all their malfunctions, I said I did not want the car and the sales manager told me he needs to talk with his boss. He asked me to give them a second chance. I told them they already had a second chance and that I paid for a car that was supposed to be the equivalent of a Honda, Toyota, Mitsubishi, or Nissan.

Actually, this car is built in association with Nissan Motor Corporation. I did not pay for a car used by them for experiment.

On that same day, I spoke with my banker and asked what should I do. He told me to get a lawyer and contact the media because this car is being advertised to be equal to or greater than the cars mentioned above in quality but sold at a lesser price, although it is an expensive automobile despite their claim.

I want to have your advice on this matter as to what I can and should do. The dealer has all of my documents at this time. All I have is this hand written receipt and a video clip.

Baguio Midland Courier Website

[clairenceh]

^ Sana naman nagbigay pa siya ng isang chance.

Sino owner ng Haima 7 dito? Type kasi ni papa ko yun e. Haha. Ano po masasabi niyo?

[slapz]

Parang naguluhan ako dun sa article. Hmm.. Can someone explain to me what happened? Nahirapan ako sa english ni Mr. Walker.

Magkaiba ang nagpost dun sa Thread ko at dito. Hmm... Coincidence kaya?

[victorevolution]

there was a member here na nawalan ng brake habang umaandar ang china car niya na blizzard same with thunder, would you waste your money with an intsik made car...

please be careful with your ride and congrats- same why cherry cars failed with their venture with coke...

[Jaegher]

there was a member here na nawalan ng brake habang umaandar ang china car niya na blizzard same with thunder, would you waste your money with an intsik made car...

please be careful with your ride and congrats- same why cherry cars failed with their venture with coke...

Thank you and i really appreciate your concern toward our well-being, pero might i ask kung Haima car din ba yung nawalan ng brake?

If not, is it too unfair to judge the maker without even trying the product? May member din dito na sinabing nawalan din cya ng brake while driving a japan made car, does this mean na poorly made din lahat ng japan made cars?

Just my opinion on this. But honestly, salamat sa concern. I just loved the car and its features, bagay sa lifestyle and travel needs ko, especially my budget. So far, from my research wala pa akong nakitang bad reviews (edit: may isa na pala akong nakitang bad review about sa Haima Benguet ata yun) sa Haima, maybe because bago pa ito, maybe because there are a few people na nagttry pa lang.

Ayaw nyo nun, may guinea pig na kayo sa Haima 7 AND for the Haima 2.

[slapz]

Great to hear that! Actually tomorrow i'll be giving the downpayment na. When asked kung kelan ko makukuha yung unit, by monday daw. Ang problem ko ay pinapaready nila ako ng 48 checks e wala pa akong checking account.

Eh dapat kasi, sa bank ka nalang, kaso nga pala, mataas ang Cash out sa bank. Madali lang naman mag-open ng checking account. Pero ako, walang checking account, puro online nalang din naman kasi ngayon. ehehe!

congrats slapz my kasama kana pwede na kayo mag eb hehehehe...

sana naman mag-tsikot na din yung iba, kelangan ko ng comparisons! ahaha!

ibenta mo na si pride. wala yang warranty kapag masira.
gamitin mo si haima habang may warranty pa..
you bought it to use it, not to house it.
heh heh.
but i still have my 15 year old sentra.. justin case.. heh heh heh. emotional attachment...? bat kasi meron pang coding coding dito sa MM...

so how's your new car?

Hmm.. Pwede sana, kaso buntis kasi si Misis, kaya yung si Haima7 ang naiiwan sa bahay, medyo mabigat bigat na din kasi i-drive yung Kia Pride. Besides, overused din yung Haima7, lampas 4K na ako, eh wala pa mang 3 months! Ahaha!

there was a member here na nawalan ng brake habang umaandar ang china car niya na blizzard same with thunder, would you waste your money with an intsik made car...

please be careful with your ride and congrats- same why cherry cars failed with their venture with coke...

Don't judge the book by its paper! ehehe!

Thank you and i really appreciate your concern toward our well-being, pero might i ask kung Haima car din ba yung nawalan ng brake?

If not, is it too unfair to judge the maker without even trying the product? May member din dito na sinabing nawalan din cya ng brake while driving a japan made car, does this mean na poorly made din lahat ng japan made cars?

Just my opinion on this. But honestly, salamat sa concern. I just loved the car and its features, bagay sa lifestyle and travel needs ko, especially my budget. So far, from my research wala pa akong nakitang bad reviews (edit: may isa na pala akong nakitang bad review about sa Haima Benguet ata yun) sa Haima, maybe because bago pa ito, maybe because there are a few people na nagttry pa lang.

Ayaw nyo nun, may guinea pig na kayo sa Haima 7 AND for the Haima 2.

Hindi naman na talaga mawawala ang stigma ng China Made things. Dami kasi horror stories.

Another thing, if you see a Ford Focus, na isa lang ang nakailaw na reverse light, sasabihin, ah, baka may rear fog lamps or something, they won't think it's busted. Pero pag sa Haima7, "Pre, pundido na kaagad yung ilaw mo sa likod?!"

Double Standards.

[Jaegher]

^ Yes, mas maganda kung online na lang sana. Will try to talk to my SA kung pwedeng online payment na lang through BPI.

[victorevolution]

back read, an article was posted and the car was haima.(THE ARTICLE was posted in this thread haima 3 if im not mistaken)

human guinea pigs hell no except if the car maker would be the one to ride it and test it. anyway no need to argue just be safe, yung problem ata is the master brake, not the atf fluid as i recall(FROM ANOTHER ARTICLE NOT POSTED IN THIS THREAD)

as for those toyota-(and now nissan navara) that became dead in the water the symptoms only arise after five years (not unlike the intsik made car wala pang one year lumabas na) since the svc supplied by denso would only work properly under euro diesel 4- eto ang sinasabi ko- why the people at toyota philippines didnt first thoroughly checked their auto before distributing them here unlike benz diesel, jeep and mercedes which never stalled

walang balak makipag argue. dont like to generalize but as of record all intsik car are not that reliable.

fyi= madami naman horror stories eh di lang intsik cars, pero mas madalas sa intsik cars.