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    #451
    Quote Originally Posted by LoBudget View Post
    Manual transmissions will usually be more efficient than AT. The biggest factor is driving style, then of course the TB has a more modern engine.

    Given the TB LTZ, TB Manual Transmission, 2.5 Strada non VGT, and MS GTV all loaded with the same amount of fuel and you leave them all idling side by side, most likely TB LTZ will run out of fuel first (unless the GTV is a 3.0). Then the rest will follow close to each other. I dont believe any of them have engine start/stop functions.
    Wrong. TB LTZ will be the 2nd to the last to run out of fuel. I've seen it with my own eyes. Our non VGT Strada had to refuel in Dagupan City, TB LTZ refueled back in Mindanao Avenue. My best friend's Montero GTV had to refuel in San Fernando, La Union before going back to Manila, my TB LTZ refueled in Dagupan City on our way back to Manila from San Fernando, La Union. And I have a heavier right foot than the drivers of both our Strada and my best friend's Montero GTV

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    #452
    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    Wrong. TB LTZ will be the 2nd to the last to run out of fuel. I've seen it with my own eyes. Our non VGT Strada had to refuel in Dagupan City, TB LTZ refueled back in Mindanao Avenue. My best friend's Montero GTV had to refuel in San Fernando, La Union before going back to Manila, my TB LTZ refueled in Dagupan City on our way back to Manila from San Fernando, La Union. And I have a heavier right foot than the drivers of both our Strada and my best friend's Montero GTV

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    No one is contesting what you have experienced. However, there are many factors affecting the results: driving style, condition of the vehicles, load carried, tire pressure, wheel tread pattern, etc etc.

    What I was saying was, drain a TB LTZ and 2.5 non-VGT Strada's tank, put in the same amount and type of fuel and leave them idling until one of them runs out and the TB will most likely run out first. This assumes they are both stock and the engines are in pristine condition... this is a pretty good gimik. Maybe you can propose that to TCCI and they can setup a test with the TB's direct competitors with one of the automotive magazines or tv shows to feature.

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    #453
    Quote Originally Posted by LoBudget View Post
    No one is contesting what you have experienced. However, there are many factors affecting the results: driving style, condition of the vehicles, load carried, tire pressure, wheel tread pattern, etc etc.

    What I was saying was, drain a TB LTZ and 2.5 non-VGT Strada's tank, put in the same amount and type of fuel and leave them idling until one of them runs out and the TB will most likely run out first. This assumes they are both stock and the engines are in pristine condition... this is a pretty good gimik. Maybe you can propose that to TCCI and they can setup a test with the TB's direct competitors with one of the automotive magazines or tv shows to feature.

    Magandang idea yan, para toe to toe comparison. Driving style talaga is a great factor(for me). Like going for 2nd gear immediately from a full stop or shifting your gear at low rpm or the other way around

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    #454
    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    They give leatherette seat covers which is as good as the OEM leather seats. It is free for all sales referrals of the Trailblazer Club of the Philippines only for the ff dealerships:
    Chevrolet Commonwealth, Pasig and Makati. You should get the contact numbers of their GMs or General Sales Managers from me 1st so that you could avail of the special sales package for our referrals.

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    Boss, can you also give me the contact number of Chevy Makati GM where we could avail the seats upgrade for the 2014 4X2 AT. Would like to set an appointment with them and have my bank contact them. Just got approval yesterday from my bank but they contacted Chevy Laguna in Santa Rosa. No seat upgrade offered to us here but I'll try to ask also. This is a new dealership is owned by the Lorenzo group.

    Thanks in advance.

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    #455
    Quote Originally Posted by LoBudget View Post
    No one is contesting what you have experienced. However, there are many factors affecting the results: driving style, condition of the vehicles, load carried, tire pressure, wheel tread pattern, etc etc.

    What I was saying was, drain a TB LTZ and 2.5 non-VGT Strada's tank, put in the same amount and type of fuel and leave them idling until one of them runs out and the TB will most likely run out first. This assumes they are both stock and the engines are in pristine condition... this is a pretty good gimik. Maybe you can propose that to TCCI and they can setup a test with the TB's direct competitors with one of the automotive magazines or tv shows to feature.
    Been there, done that when my TrailB LTZ was 2 weeks old. Both TrailB and Strada had low fuel, filled them both with P1000 worth of Unioil Euro 4 diesel at the same time, went back to my house along with my brother, and let them idle for 30 mins. The results were in favor of the TrailB. Fuel gauge needle barely moved from above 1/2 when we arrived at home, Strada's fuel gauge moved from 1/2 to about near halfway between 1/2 and 1/4.

    By the way I have replied to your PM to me and sent another one

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    #456
    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    That's because it has a smaller displacement that the 2.8L engine thus it has a better FC. Take note that I compared the FC of my TrailB LTZ to that of Mitsubishi's 2.5L 4D56 VGT and non VGT engine. And IMO, the FC of the 2.8L Duramax Diesel engine is also ok. City driving for the 2013 version averages around 7.5-9.5 km/L. The 2014 version is said to be significantly more fuel efficient due to improved ECU programming and quicker transmission shifting, aside from being more powerful and torquier than the 2013 version. Some of TBCPh's members told me that they average around 8.5-10.5 km/L (4x4) and 9.0-11.3 km/L (4x2 A/T) city driving.

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    i agree and attest to this, despite heavy traffic in roxas b. and driving like crazy in slex (few cars) it's average fuel consumption of the 4x2 at 2.8 is just 12km per litter and it's not even 2 weeks old...considering this is a new car which would always consume more fuel during the break in period... just imagine after it's first 10k kms what would the fuel consumption would be like

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    Looking forward to getting my TB soon, sana ma-irefer ako ni numbah5 sa GM ng Chevrolet-Makati to get best deal possible.

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    #458
    Quote Originally Posted by Eismann View Post
    Looking forward to getting my TB soon, sana ma-irefer ako ni numbah5 sa GM ng Chevrolet-Makati to get best deal possible.
    PM sent sir

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    #459
    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    That's because it has a smaller displacement that the 2.8L engine thus it has a better FC. Take note that I compared the FC of my TrailB LTZ to that of Mitsubishi's 2.5L 4D56 VGT and non VGT engine. And IMO, the FC of the 2.8L Duramax Diesel engine is also ok. City driving for the 2013 version averages around 7.5-9.5 km/L. The 2014 version is said to be significantly more fuel efficient due to improved ECU programming and quicker transmission shifting, aside from being more powerful and torquier than the 2013 version. Some of TBCPh's members told me that they average around 8.5-10.5 km/L (4x4) and 9.0-11.3 km/L (4x2 A/T) city driving.

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    The engine of the Montero Sport is technically aging. it might be more or less 10 years old with few upgrades if any. 2.8 duramax engine is vastly superior to the 2.5 4d56 engine, its more modern thus the more inferior fuel consumption in my opinion.

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    #460
    Quote Originally Posted by ACarEnthusiast View Post
    The engine of the Montero Sport is technically aging. it might be more or less 10 years old with few upgrades if any. 2.8 duramax engine is vastly superior to the 2.5 4d56 engine, its more modern thus the more inferior fuel consumption in my opinion.
    Kaso nga lang sir, based on my own experience, both of Mitsubishi's 4D56 (VGT and non VGT) and 4M41 engines have inferior fuel consumption than GM's 2.8L Duramax Diesel engine. I know because I have a Strada (non VGT) and a Montero (4M41) and I also drove my bestfriend's Montero GTV thrice na long drive. Mas malayo inaabot ng Trailblazer on a full tank than the Montero and Strada. That's with a heavy foot of mine.

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