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    It was spot-welded, looks like it.The presence of surface rust along the supposedly solid interface seems to suggest that there was an air gap between them and has been like that for at least a while prior to the incident.

    Serpentza featured it...
    Last edited by oj88; May 1st, 2024 at 10:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    It was spot-welded, looks like it.
    i can see it now,

    worker 1 : "hey, bud, it's almost lunchtime. i'll just spot-weld this, then have lunch, then properly weld it all round afterward."
    worker 2 : "ok, bud."

    worker 1 never came back to finish the job.
    then worker 3 came along : "now, who left this here? it should have been brought to the pile of 'finished welds' over there. i'll bring it there myself."

    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    It was spot-welded, looks like it.The presence of surface rust along the supposedly solid interface seems to suggest that there was an air gap between them and has been like that for at least a while prior to the incident.



    hindi spot welded yan. spot welding is used on join thin body panels together. it looks like MIG

    i do MIG (w/ shielding gas) at home here's a fairly recent weld that i did. there are a lot of variables that could affect weld quality: wire speed, voltage, surface prep, poor grounding, worn out tips, etc



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    i do MIG (w/ shielding gas) at home here's a fairly recent weld that i did.
    ***y welds!

    Apparently the subcon that makes the part replaced a worn welding tip but did not recalibrate it
    News: Chery Auto Malaysia traces Omoda 5 rear axle issue to miscalibrated welding machine | CarSifu

    Are the local 5x Pros getting parts from the same subcon? Or is there more to the story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    ***y welds!

    Apparently the subcon that makes the part replaced a worn welding tip but did not recalibrate it
    News: Chery Auto Malaysia traces Omoda 5 rear axle issue to miscalibrated welding machine | CarSifu

    Are the local 5x Pros getting parts from the same subcon? Or is there more to the story?
    ... perhaps the workers have been replacing the worn welding tips as a matter of routine, without realizing they have to re-calibrate them afterwards...

    while it may be relatively easy to determine when the system error occurred, narrowing down the suspect batches of affected cars, it is still prudent to have all the cars using similar parts, be inspected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    hindi spot welded yan. spot welding is used on join thin body panels together. it looks like MIG

    i do MIG (w/ shielding gas) at home here's a fairly recent weld that i did. there are a lot of variables that could affect weld quality: wire speed, voltage, surface prep, poor grounding, worn out tips, etc


    as an aside,
    when dad had something welded, the first thing he did upon reaching home, is to paint over the welded segments to prevent them from rusting.
    years later, we would encounter yon segment, and note that even as the segments adjacent to the weld are rusting, the welded segment's paint is still intact and the metal below it, rust-free.
    sabi nga nang iba, "pag papa ko ang gumawa, mas malakas pa kaysa original".

    slow morning.
    apologies.
    Last edited by dr. d; May 24th, 2024 at 10:46 AM.

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